I Need A New Saddle...

Discussion in 'Saddles' started by SnakeCharmer, Feb 26, 2017.

  1. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/MTB Addict

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Yeti ASR5c, SC Hightower
    ..........Annnnnnd There yah Go!
    Another Successful Derailment!
     
  2. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    He should definitely try @Faust29 seat. We need another guinea pig, maybe that will be the ticket for this type of seat to take off.:geek:
     
  3. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    Yeah... And if they don't like it, I'll buy it at half price! :p
     
  4. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
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  5. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Freudian slip? ;)
     
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  6. HBkites

    HBkites Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Huntington Beach
    Name:
    Sharone
    Current Bike:
    Why Cycles S7
    The Fizik Aliante XM has been my go-to saddle for the last few years.
    "I put that $hit on every bike"


    Unfortunately, It has been discontinued a while back. I have been buying the colorful (yellow, purple, etc) "test" units on eBay.
     
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  7. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    My 4 year old SDG Falcon has a bent rail so time for a new saddle. I am tempted to just get the same one but also intrigued by the Fabric offerings as well as the newer SDG models.

    Anyone got experience on the Fabric stuff? @mike How is that SDG you are using?
     
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  8. mike

    mike iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Love it. It's very different from any I've owned. I can spin for literally hours with no hot spots. It does have a bit of a narrow feeling, but it's been great for 5-6 hour rides. I think it'll be fine for all-day gigs. I've been using boxer liners lately cuz cool weather, and whatever shorts or pants. It really stays out of the way during technical stuff with it's shortness; a good choice for my bike. Durable so far.

    I would reco it to someone with the caveat about narrowness. Full disclosure, my ass is all-time hard right now, nerves gave up I think...

    This is my Fly Mtn Cromo, no longer available it looks: https://sdgcomponents.com/collectio...ucts/fly-mtn-cro-mo-rails?variant=16441862913
     
  9. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ladera Ranch
    Name:
    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    I heard they are worth the $$$ but no personal experience
     
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  10. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    I have a Chromag Trailmaster Leather for sale - used 3x. It's great, but too wide for my sit-bones at about 143mm.
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    I also have a WTB Silverado (black) barely used, and a WTB Rocket V Titanium - White, fairly used - that I am willing to part with for pennies on the dollar.
     
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  11. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ladera Ranch
    Name:
    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    I recently bolted this on, SQ labs 612 “active” in its widest size. It’s definenantky much diffrent than any saddle I have used. The actual contact point at the sit bones is a small area, which is by design. So far I feel like it’s working. Very happy. I don’t know if everyone needs the “active” version, but with my hip mobility issue I feel good about the articulating saddle. It feels weird for 2 rides. Now it feels normal. I’ll report back after a 3 hour ride, which is not that often

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  12. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    Fabric Radius on all my bikes. Best saddle for me a$$
     
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  13. Voodoo Tom

    Voodoo Tom MTB Addict

    Location:
    Castaic
    Name:
    Tom
    Current Bike:
    Pick one, got a few
    Following. Almost bought the 611 saddle without the active rubber gizmo for the new Hightower(but picked up a cheapie Volt). Shape of the 611 looks right to me. I go numb & tingly pretty quick on seated climbs.

    Only other saddle I've tried is the specialized power pro. Got measured from the LBS 3 times and was told 3 different measurements but went with the best 2 out of 3 and a 155mm saddle. Didn't work for me. Sitting on my workbench if someone else wants to try it.
     
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  14. littlewave

    littlewave Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Newport Beach
    Name:
    Brett
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley LS
    @Voodoo Tom interested, check yo pms!
     
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  15. Paul Hales

    Paul Hales New Member

    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula, Australia
    Name:
    Paul Hales
    Current Bike:
    Norco Torrent custom build
    The ISM saddles look good - which model do you have?
     
  16. mike

    mike iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    I'm digging the wide nose on my SDG; don't see any reason for it to not be that way.
     
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  17. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    I started with the Adamo Peak in 2013 on my full suspension bike... That saddle went to the El Mariachi, and now sees back up duty on the Highball. It probably has 12000 miles on it, and the covering material is showing wear.

    I picked up the new PSM 2.0 on eBay. It seems to be identical in construction to the Peak, except for the color... And the increased price tag.

    I've said this elsewhere on the forums, but if you get numb in your nether regions, you are doing something wrong. Cutting off blood flow down there should never be accepted as normal, no matter how long the ride is.
     
  18. bvader

    bvader Well-Known Member

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Stephen
    Dude think in have met you, think you are a normal sized guy, and clearly I was not measuring your @$$ but I would seriously doubt if you are a 155 if true you are either very oddly proportioned or just a flat out monster dude! (LOL quite a sentence).

    By design of evolution men's hip / sit bones tend to narrower. I highly recommend folks that are struggling with saddles to start narrow and move toward wide even though it sounds d counterintuitive. I have a long story / personal experience to go with this and helped a number of friends get to comfort. Generally 2 things...Most were simply on too wide of saddle and/or 2nd) poorly positioned including too nose down which seem like it should be better but actually add more pressure to sit bones, junk and wrist. If you look most high end saddle makers are now making 133/135mm saddles.

    Unfortunately the whole measuring thing... Hmmmm. I did the original specialized @$$-O-Meter which helped point me but also had a doctor help point me in the right direction because I was in so much pain from irritating the ischial bone and inflamed tendon where the hamstring attached.
     
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  19. mike

    mike iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Despite a reputation for out-of-box, chamois-less comfort, leather saddles are, apparently, not on the radar of the MTB mainstream. They're somewhat weighty, not inexpensive, and the shapes are generally not what technical riders want.

    But if long saddle time is more your game (versus shorter tech-y rides), a Brooks or Selle Anatomica MTB saddle could be an option. I put a new SA X on a HT tandem and rode 50+ long days, another 40 days straight on a single HT, very few days using padded shorts or liners. No issues at all. I throw it on whatever bike for bikepacking missions. Even for some long routes with technical DH riding, I would opt to compromise and run the Selle Anatomica because such routes usually have steep and spinny seated climbing. 70% of riders on the GDMBR run leather. I can deal with any saddle for any one day, but it becomes more critical with no recovery time between days.

    FWIW; file under How To Look Like A Square...
     
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  20. rossage

    rossage iMTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    Palm Canyon victim
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    Felt weird today, finally broke through.
    Going back to the Phenom
     
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  21. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    This thread sounds, and now looks, like a personal problem. o_O
     
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  22. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    Mine lasted about a year. I started to get sore from it on the last few rides so I threw an old Henge on for now. Surprisingly the Henge is 5 years old and is more comfortable!
     
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  23. rossage

    rossage iMTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    Yeah, I like the Henge also. Both in 143mm.Gotta check what we have at the shop.
     
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  24. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ladera Ranch
    Name:
    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    Balls of steel
     
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  25. Paul Hales

    Paul Hales New Member

    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula, Australia
    Name:
    Paul Hales
    Current Bike:
    Norco Torrent custom build
    Just double checked my saddle - an older Specialized Alias 155. It's got a bit of wear, but I find it super comfy.
     
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  26. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    My other bikes all have Brooks saddles... love them! Tried it on a MTB, and just didn't work though. It's too hard, and I whacked myself a few too many times with it. Moved over to WTB Devo/Deva saddles, and very happy with those. I don't even know what my new bike has, but it seems to be fine!
     
  27. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    Just got done with my first ride on the Fabric Scoop shallow, almost went with the radius but brought my saddle with me that it’s replacing and the shallow looked more the same. Only time will tell but really liked it, or should I say didn’t notice it or any soreness. Granted I only did 15mi and 1900’ of climbing.
     
  28. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Ladera Ranch
    Name:
    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    The way SQ labs chart works is you size up if you are in a more upright position, like i am on my AM bike. I measured 13.5cm. And went +2.5cm to reach 15cm
    If i was on a road or XC short track bike i would want a 13.5cm.

    My situation was, my chromag saddle was much to narrow in the effective area. The transition to the nose slopes down quickly. I thought it was just stiff, but it was much worse then i knew. My pelvis was being forced apart into an unnatural position and once i sat on my 15cm sq labs i instantly knew that my saddle was partially responsablibe for the hip mobility/pelvis/lower back pain problem i was presented.

    SQ labs 612 active update.
    1. I like the squishy “active” rubber inserts. It seems to work well for my hip issue.
    2. I went +2.5cm on the sitbone measurement. So far i like the fit.
    3. On the flat land, i would not say it exceptionally Compfortable But i do feel a deeper skeletal support. It comes to life climbing. The scoop on the tail and step design puts my body in a great position for climbing. I am not slideing off the back, and i feel less pressure on my stuff when climbing(compare to other saddles)
    4. Past 2 hours? No problem. Actually it feels more comfortable after 1.5 hours of riding.
     
  29. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    My hips are killing me too, off the bike. Maybe I should try yet another saddle. I was measured, and I have narrower sit bones than I though, so I went to a WTB Rocket V. Feels good, but man my hips and lower back have been a mess for almost a year. Not sure what part of my ergonomics are messed up. When I first got my Tracer, my back found sudden relief caused by a much steeper seat-tube angle. But now, it's my hips. (sigh)

    Let the age jokes commence.
     
  30. Obsidian

    Obsidian Member

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    2017 Intense Tracer
    I have a Fabric Scoop Radius and it is pretty good. I was never much of a believer in saddle differences, but then I took an aluminum Giant Trance out for a weekend with a rock hard saddle, and I could barely walk for a week after. Don't know if it was the aluminium frame or the saddle that was beating my ass, but I did not like it. Carbon frames and reasonably soft saddles FTW.
     
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