Bike Mag emtb survey

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Derkderkall, Sep 22, 2018.

  1. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
  2. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Yeti ASR5c, SC Hightower
    I took the survey.
    Thanks for posting this! :thumbsup:
     
  3. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Thanks for that. Done. I expressed my love for motorbikes! :inlove:

    What's interesting is I was becoming e-bike tolerant, since there were already so many on the trails and all the local shops are pushing them. BUT then I read about the fraud and the placards. Oh hell no.
     
  4. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Done:thumbsup:
    I’m not a hater, but I hope to never see these bikes on my single track trails.
     
  5. Stkx66

    Stkx66 Member

    Location:
    Southern California
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Bronson C
    I took the survey too. I also do not want to see or deal with the already growing number of ebikes on local trails.
     
  6. Dirtrider....

    Dirtrider.... Member

    Location:
    Tustin
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley v2
    done...interesting survey
     
  7. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    I shared my love for those monstrosities.
     
  8. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
  9. H2oChick

    H2oChick Well-Known Member

    Name:
    K-Oss
  10. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    It feels like the survey is more in regard to their coverage of Ebikes.. seeing if there is a reader base. I'm sure we will see an e-bike mag in the future...
     
  11. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    If I am not mistaken, I think I have already seen at least one E-bike magazine monthly out on the store racks.
     
  12. MrGreedom

    MrGreedom Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Name:
    Ryan
    Current Bike:
    BH Lynx6
    Print media is dead, I hope it takes the ebike down with it.
     
  13. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    So, instead of paging through a magazine on the crapper, most are now surfing a magazine website through their tablet on the crapper?
     
  14. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Done. Submitted. Probably confused them.

    I gave answers that pretty much state emtbs are the spawn of Satan and should never be allowed to pollute our trails. That's my opinion.

    Then I said they should hell yes accept emtb ads. "I am not going to tell you how to run your business; the market will."

    It's my inner libertarian shining through. :cool:
     
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  15. Grego

    Grego Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    joe
    Current Bike:
    WFO9
    Done.
    Looks like I'm a Purist after all.
     
  16. BonsaiNut

    BonsaiNut Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Hills
    Name:
    Greg P
    Current Bike:
    Custom XTR 29er
    I did NOT take the "survey", because as someone with background in marketing research, I can confirm that it is a piece of analytic dung - not worth the epaper it is printed on. In the spirit of fake news - any time I see a survey like this one I run in the other direction, because I know the results will be used to justify a decision that has probably already been made. My favorite research quote "tell me the result you wish, and I can create bad research to achieve it."

    That said - it highlights the biggest issue with ebikes: they are an all-or-nothing type of product. Either you let them ALL on the trails, or you have to ban them ALL.

    Why? Because no matter what "limits" you place on e-bikes, manufacturers will always push the limits to edge. Then people will release after-market parts to allow you to "mod" your e-bike to go beyond the limits. And it will be impossible as a property manager to tell which is which. Do you really think rangers have the time to micro-analyze every motorized bike on a trail to see if in conforms to power limits? Heck, you already have people applying for handicapped tags to get around trail rules - do you think anyone will balk at applying an after-market battery upgrade to increase their e-bike power to 50% over the legal trail limit?

    There isn't an argument you can make for e-bikes that can't also be made for dirt bikes and mopeds. They are the exact same product... just with different packaging. I LOVE a good moped ride. Just keep them off the dirt.
     
  17. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Yeti ASR5c, SC Hightower
    I'm also going to "weed out" this migration to the OC Parks, and place it in it's obvious spot since this is a Bike Mag eBike survey, ha hah!
    So don't panic @Derkderkall ! :)
     
  18. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Yeti ASR5c, SC Hightower
  19. luskie

    luskie Member

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Randall Loscutoff
    Current Bike:
    Piviot Mach 5.5
    Done all ready have a bad image flying downhill, now 25mph up hill
     
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  20. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Just give them directions to Gorman.
     
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  21. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Don’t you dare send them to Canada:devilish:
     
  22. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    What, you don't want them playing with the other ATVs & momos?
     
  23. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010
    As long as they stay on truck trails:thumbsup:
     
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  24. mike

    mike iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
  25. Grassblade23

    Grassblade23 Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Iron Horse Quantum/Chumba XCL
    Done. It's not often I get to use the phrase, "Hater tears are delicious," on a survey.
    Most of the questions didn't have answers that accurately reflect my nuanced opinion, but that's often the case with surveys. Also, it's borderline narcissistic of me to assume anyone is truly that concerned about the full extent of my views.
     
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