Kioti said: "Well, we've got the right to be there. Or should I say privilege. It's in the original plan. Along with the option of adding trails, like has happened with Lizard, Mentally Sensitive and Car Wreck. Not saying we can't blow it.. but how 'bout we give peace a chance?" And I'm saying don't acquiesce to the original "plan." There is no wilderness in Orange County any more. Let's face it, let's be clear about it, and let's not let that drive the discussion. So the only remaining point of contention is who gets to access the parks we all pay to have. Boston Tea Party. Whiskey Rebellion. War of Northern Agression. Admittedly some were more successful than others, but you get the drift. Edit: I admit to missing this earlier - Privelege? I'm forced to contribute to the upkeep and it's a privilege to access it? I beg to differ.