2019 Giant Trance 29 2

Discussion in 'Classifieds' started by buggravy, Dec 7, 2018.

  1. buggravy

    buggravy Member

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
    Being both a new/returning rider, and being out hurt has my gear over-thinking in overdrive. While I do think that the model is just fine for me, I feel pretty certain I picked the wrong size (I'm 5'11" on a M). Truthfully I'm really in between a M and a L on this bike so there are trade offs either way. I got to sit on a M GG Smash yesterday, and it felt like home and got the wheels turning. Long justification for the quick sale aside, I'm thinking of selling the Trance and putting in an order for a Smash that would be ready when my shoulder is. Bike was only ridden 3 times, so <20 miles on it. Basically new. It's bone stock. The pic below is the day I brought it home. For anyone interested I can of course take detailed current pics, but at the moment it's hanging upside down in the garage, and with my bum wing it's an operation to take down and photograph. $3050 was retail. $2,500 would take it, so $800ish off after tax.

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  2. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Nice bike, but that bouncy/squishy thingy in front of the seat tube is just weird. :unsure:
     
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  3. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    A medium in most brands/models will be, as you found, too small for you.

    If you have long arms and or like a short stem you could consider and "extra medium" Smash frame for a reasonable upcharge. I'm 5-10.5 with +3.5" ape index, and I need a 60mm stem on a medium with no offset post and the seat slid back. YMMV. Some like the snappier length of the regular frames, and in SoCal generally, I can see the rationale. Keep in mind that, as you get better, your bigger bike will not feel big anymore. It will continually feel smaller in the next couple of years. And depending on your style, terrain and setup, you could end up wishing for more bike still. I probably would go for the extra medium and a 35-50 mm stem if I had it to do again. No mistaking, I love my regular medium.

    Nice redirection. Welcome in advance to the GG family. Some nice thin flats and ~800 mm bars, go a-smashing. :sneaky::thumbsup:
     
  4. buggravy

    buggravy Member

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
    Thanks for the feedback (and the new bike validation). It's a bit of a bummer that I got a bum steer from the LBS, and didn't trust my gut. They were adamant that the M was the right size, and even showed me a chart that showed me right in the middle of M. I realized after the fact that we were looking at the chart for the Trance 29 X from a few years ago, and having been off a bike for so long I just wasn't in tune with what I was comfortable with just looking at geometry. Both M and L felt fine cruising around the parking lot, so I took their suggestion, but once I was on trail it really felt like the front wheel really wanted to come off the ground on ascents, and was wandering a lot. Tried to tell myself that more seat time would fix it, and it probably would to an extent, but the other wrong but more properly sized bike that I initially purchased didn't give me the same issue on the same trails. Whatever, right of passage I suppose.

    I'm really stoked on the idea of the Smash. I called GG a few days ago, and immediately got someone on the phone who knew the bikes well, as opposed to a droid with PDF. Super nice and was happy to chat as long as I needed. That means something. He turned me on to a shop that I was going to be driving right by the next day that he said should have a Smash demo. My shoulder isn't well enough to even pedal around a parking lot quite yet, but just sitting on it just felt really right.
     
  5. Cornholio

    Cornholio iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Salton Sea
    Name:
    Carol
    I am just at 6’ maybe 5’11.75” these days and I ride a M RIP9 but I demoed both sizes. Other brands/models I’m usually a L but I liked the way the M RIP felt over the L for how I ride. Bummer you weren’t able to demo both sizes. It looks like 5’11” is the top end of M on the current trance sizing chart, 6’0” is what Niner has for a M at the top end. You’re definitely not in the middle for the current chart! At the end of the day a chart is only a chart and the only real way to size a bike is to ride it as you quickly found out. Good luck with your sale and hopefully the Smash works out.
     
  6. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Redirections happen, especially during times of reorientation such as you're going through now. Never mind the reason – moving toward the right tool for your missions and goals is a good thing.

    Glad you were served well by GG. They are known for excellent and patient CS. Anyone that answers the phone will be a riding enthusiast with deep industry and product knowledge, but most likely it was Jubal or Bobby. Hopefully you like riding the Smash as well as the idea of owning one. :cool: Glad to hear you have a local demo. Be patient and put tires in the dirt when you can. Holler if I can help with any info; I've had my Smash since August '17, long enough to feel as one with it (and have the squish serviced). Cheers... :)
     
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  7. buggravy

    buggravy Member

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
    So, is Pinkbike the next best place to sell a bike if still trying to sell locally? I know there's Craigslist, but based on other things I've sold on CL I'd rather not open myself up to that crap show.
     
  8. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    I sold a couple of bikes on PB and they went pretty fast. I think they have more of a real MTB audience than CL.
     
  9. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    Do both. PB has it's flakes, and CL has it's serious people. On CL I only use their anonymous email, and don't put my cell out. From that point it's pretty easy to meet them down at my LBS's parking lot. I've sold and bought a lot on CL, and it works well for what it is. I've even bought a few things out of the area and had them shipped. The hard part is convincing the seller that I'm not scamming them.

    I've never sold on PB, but have bought a few things with no drama. I don't like having to pack things for shipping, so avoid that if possible. Paypal is the ace in the hole with PB, just be sure to not use friends an family and PP will intervene if there is a problem.
     
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  10. MrGreedom

    MrGreedom Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Name:
    Ryan
    Current Bike:
    BH Lynx6
    I am 6' and I had a 2016 Trance that was a L and it felt big to me. My current bike is a M and fits much better. But I also ride my snowboard/skis short. I like my equipment to be playful and really responsive.

    But the Trance is a great bike and I sold mine easily as you probably will also.
     
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  11. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Good advice here. I've used Pinkbike a fair bit, both ways.

    Repeating...PayPal is key. I will gladly pay the 2.9% seller fee for a normal transaction (vs "Friends and Family") on any spendy item to be able to dispute the purchase, and I did have to do that once. Black Rock Bikes in Reno or anyone named Curtis O...caveat emptor! :cautious::thumbsdown:
     
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  12. Sidewalk

    Sidewalk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    The road is where I call home
    Name:
    Josh
    Current Bike:
    N+1
    Odd, I am 5'8" and can ride a large just fine, just prefer a medium. I can't imagine being 3" taller and riding a medium though!
     
  13. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Seriously! Why can't all these manufacturers get together and agree on the numbers for each size?? Hehe, he said numbers... :cool:
     
  14. MrGreedom

    MrGreedom Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Name:
    Ryan
    Current Bike:
    BH Lynx6
    It is the manufacturers choice. On a Santa Cruz a L fits me like a glove. On Dave Weagle designs I size down.
     
  15. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve Macko
    Current Bike:
    3 Times SC, Oh My.
    I'm still wondering which shop pushed the medium... I understand if you don't want to name names. Just curious...

    I'm about the same height as you, and would not consider a medium in the big name bikes, nor would the shop I frequent push one with charts.
     
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  16. buggravy

    buggravy Member

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
    It was Wheel World. I don't want to throw any shade their way though, as they've been very accommodating. The first bike I bought (Fathom) was just a misguided choice on my part because I wasn't clear what I wanted to ride getting back into things. I was back at the shop discussing that I might look for something else, and sell the Fathom, and they offered to take it back for a nominal restocking fee to help me get into the bike I wanted. I think the recommendation of the M came with the best of intentions. To be fair, the chart for the 29 didn't exist when I bought the bike, right after they were released. Where I'm kind of kicking myself is when I went back in on Black Friday. They had 20% off all bikes, and I went in with the intention of buying the same bike in L, thinking I'd unload the M without too big of a hit, and they talked me out of it. They talked me out of a sale, so there in lies the good intentions I believe. I shouldn't have been so wishy washy though, so I'll own that. And being in between sizes the L in that same bike might also have not been ideal.
     
  17. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve Macko
    Current Bike:
    3 Times SC, Oh My.
    Ahhhh... That makes for a clearer picture. :thumbsup:
     
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  18. buggravy

    buggravy Member

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
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