20 years since Whiting Ranch mountain lion fatality

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  1. BonsaiNut

    BonsaiNut iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Troutman, NC
    Name:
    Greg P
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower CC XX1
    With the recent mountain lion attack in El Dorado county, it brought back memories of the attack in Whiting Ranch. I did a quick search and was surprised to see that the Whiting Ranch event happened 20 years ago (Jan/2004).

    I was always a little surprised at the attack - given the volume of human traffic in and around Whiting, and the high traffic volume on Cactus Hill (which is where the attack happened, if my memory serves). Regardless... remembering Mark Reynolds who died that day.
     
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  2. Sasquatch9billion

    Sasquatch9billion iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    trinidad j. mendez
    I normally have the tv on while I'm working at home and the episode of "I Survived", with the women who was attached after Mark was on. It was different than I remembered as she and a friend told it. But, it was on Cactus.
     
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  3. -ROCKY-

    -ROCKY- Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lakewood, CA
    Name:
    Rocky
    Wow. Something to think about. I love big cats.
     
  4. da big hills

    da big hills iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    pearl harbor
    Name:
    cagey
    Current Bike:
    enduro 29
    They do not attack very often
     
  5. BonsaiNut

    BonsaiNut iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Troutman, NC
    Name:
    Greg P
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower CC XX1
    If you remember the story, two women showed up on the trail and saw the downed bike, but no biker. They stopped and called to see if someone needed help, and were themselves attacked by the mountain lion, who grabbed one of them by the face and dragged her into the scrub. Fortunately her friend stayed with her, screaming and shouting and throwing stones. Shortly thereafter another group of four bikers showed up and helped scare off the mtn lion by beating it and hitting it with rocks. The woman who suffered severe injuries to her face was Anne Hjelle. She is the woman on the far left in my avatar. We took that photo on Veteran's Day 2010. I'm on the far right.
     
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  6. -ROCKY-

    -ROCKY- Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lakewood, CA
    Name:
    Rocky
    So what is the deal if you see one? Are you supposed to get off your bike. Have I heard the motion triggers their hunting instincts?:confused:
     
  7. Sasquatch9billion

    Sasquatch9billion iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    trinidad j. mendez
    It's probably already seen you if you see it.
    Look big, use the bike as a shield, make noise, look as big as possible.

    Like @da big hills mentioned, they rarely attack humans. The one time I saw one I think it was 2002 at Chino Hills, it was just basking lazily in the sun-didn't bother to even look my way.
     
  8. Lost Kiwi

    Lost Kiwi Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Portola Hills
    Name:
    Simon
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    If your interaction with a lion is any way how mine went, which was pretty much across the road from this one in Whiting, then its somewhat of the following....

    Me: Hmm whats that movement beside me on the trail.... Damn thats a big kitty!
    Big Kitty: Yo, whats up?
    Me: You're bigger than I expected
    Big Kitty: they all say that (feigned indifference)
    Me: Do I stop and attempt to take a photo or just keep riding...
    Big Kitty: I'm a feckin apex predator, you do you, I'll do me
    Me: I think I'm going to keep riding up the hill.... (should I look back :unsure:)

    Given we were all of 20 feet away from each other it couldn't have been less interested in me if it tried. Sadly I'm pretty sure its the female that got hit by a car recently down by Cooks Corner, looked the same including its radio collar setup. A very cool experience I will never forget.

    Based on a sample size of one, leave it alone and it will leave you alone. That or wear orange so it thinks your poisonous, feel free to experiment and report back your findings :thumbsup:.
     
  9. -ROCKY-

    -ROCKY- Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lakewood, CA
    Name:
    Rocky
    Sweet! I would love to see one!
     
  10. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    They've seen you...
     
  11. BonsaiNut

    BonsaiNut iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Troutman, NC
    Name:
    Greg P
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower CC XX1
    I've seen one in a tree in Whiting. It was a hot day and it was panting in the shade, lying on a branch. I did not stop to take pics :)
     
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  12. blixet

    blixet Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San Gabriel Valley
    Name:
    Tom
    Current Bike:
    Transition Scout, TJ Ti
    Heard today about 2 sightings two weeks ago on the single track just to the east off of top of the world on my local trail. Not too pleasant to think about. It is definitely a bit isolated through that stretch.
     
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  13. Oaken

    Oaken Well-Known Member

    Location:
    OC
    Name:
    CeeJay
    I used to work off the 91/Imperial.
    One day after work I went to the ‘Schwartznegger house’ to scout and see if there was a way into Chino Hills State park.
    There is an already established fire road that they can’t get rid of.
    I hiked it in my work clothes/dress shoes.
    Along the way I got the hair on the back of my neck feeling. I’m not superstitious and told myself I was just being silly.
    Got to the end of the road and there was no way in.
    So I turned around to a bit of an uphill.
    I had my head down as a trudged, trying not to kick dirt on my shoes.
    Then I noticed the cougar prints on top of mine.
    I kept my head on a swivel the whole way back.

    old video from Whiting

     
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  14. Agent Orange

    Agent Orange Member

    Location:
    Antelope Valley, CA
    Name:
    Yokel Legend
    Current Bike:
    '98 Specialized FSR Comp
    I rode right past one last season that was crouched in one of those drainage dugouts on the road shoulder less than 20ft away. It was interested in something in the pipe under the road and when it snapped its head up noticing me is when I noticed it. I was riding a long uphill at about 5mph and just kept going spending most of that time looking back until it was out of sight.

    Seeing a mountain lion like that is really not as fun as it sounds.
     
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  15. Y-not

    Y-not Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Coarsegold
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Pivot Mach 6, Litespeed SS
    Been there done that.
    When I go exploring on bike or on foot up here I always carry a 45acp or 9mm noise maker now.
    Last time I was hiking with my daughter near Tenaya Lodge, following an old hand dug flume for sending logs to Madera, I heard a grunt that shook me to the bone. My daughter didn't say anything at the time, but we turned around and headed back to the car. When we reached the car she asked what that sound was and I told her it was a bear. That was the last time I carried a 22.
     
  16. mtbMike

    mtbMike iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    PRESCOTT!!!
    Name:
    Mike
    Current Bike:
    Ibis HD5, Ripley & Mojo 4
    The first time I saw a mountain lion was at Whiting, about a week before this happened. I was on top of Cactus and the lion was going down the hill away from me. I'm not sure if the lion even knew I was there. I was riding solo so I waited a few minutes until other riders came up. We rode down in a pack, as fast as possible and I was making loud motorcycle sounds. About 3/4 down the hill, we saw an adult cat and two cubs going into the bushes on the left side of the trail. They didn't seem in a hurry and never looked back at us.

    I'm sure most of you saw the story of the two guys that were attacked (one killed) in NorCal last week https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/california-brothers-mountain-lion-attack/

    ...and then there was this last month https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/mountain-lion-attacks-cyclist-washington
     
  17. -ROCKY-

    -ROCKY- Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lakewood, CA
    Name:
    Rocky
    Wow. So much for, heere kitty kitty kitty!
     
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