The "Snakes" Got Wrists

Discussion in 'Health' started by SnakeCharmer, Aug 20, 2018.

  1. CBone

    CBone Well-Known Member

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    Tucker
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  2. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower/Yeti 5C
    I second Fran the Man knowing what he is talking about. Listen to that man!

    Speaking of @scan...
    I’m not sure why HE didn’t mention it, but did you try making some Tailwind paste and applying it? It “could” draw that evil out of that thumb and wrist... :geek::whistling:
     
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  3. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    Cool, can you go out in the yard and fetch one for me? :Roflmao
     
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  4. CBone

    CBone Well-Known Member

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    Tucker
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    Intense Primer
    Sure, but with my skilz there won't be any venom left for you.
     
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  5. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

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    Sara Ford
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  6. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    :eek:
     
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  7. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    Chapter 2:

    The pain is getting worse. I feel extreme pain in that hand at least once per ride, usually when I hit a g-out type bump at speed in a turn.

    Riding hurts both hands, though. For the past several months, I have changed my hand positioning to resting the base of my palms on the bars while climbing. That brings me forward on the bike a bit and as a result, I find myself sliding all over the place on the saddle (and I can't seem to get comfortable). I need to compare reach measurements between my Remedy and my Jabber. It's not an issue on the Remedy and I can say for sure that the cockpit is smaller on that bike.

    Q: If I need to shorten up the reach on the Jabber, do you guys suggest going with a slightly shorter stem, or sliding the saddle forward slightly? The stem on it currently is a 50mm. The saddle is slightly more back than forward. I'm thinking I should try a slightly shorter stem because I do not want to be any more forward on the bike than I am in my climbing position.
     
  8. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
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    Santa Cruz Hightower/Yeti 5C
    I say saddle position before stem length. If you feel the saddle is right for height and fore aft position (mostly to protect your knees) then adjust your stem length.
     
  9. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    Same saddle on both bikes? If not, swap out and see if that's a difference. Also maybe angle the nose down a smidge to keep you forward?
     
  10. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    Same exact saddle on every bike I own. Thanks.
     
  11. Cornholio

    Cornholio iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Salton Sea
    Name:
    Carol
    Lobster claw seat, Ergo grips and bar ends.

    Ok, on a serious note as you know I battle bad arthritis and have some gnarly knuckles to show for it and I have seen some reduced pain and flare up occurrences with some natural remedies.

    I start most days with a fresh juice with greens (celery, kale, apple, lime) and beets and ginger for inflammation. Then later in the morning I drink a dandelion root tea and I also take fiber on top of trying to eat lots of fiber in general. Limiting red meat has helped me as well, basically getting inflammation down is key and diet is obviously a huge factor.

    Where damage is already done and pain is nearly constant I use CBD oil and it helps for sure. I won’t take meds like ibuprofen (or stronger like many docs want to give out) long term so I use them sparingly and am able to keep most painful flare ups at bay with the oil alone.

    TL;DR Eat/drink ginger and get some CBD oil
     
  12. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    Thanks for the suggestions. More and more folks I know are using CBD oil and they all receive relief from it. How long does one application work for you? My friends are saying a few hours at a time is what they get out of it. Where is it sold?
     
  13. Cornholio

    Cornholio iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Salton Sea
    Name:
    Carol
    For me it gets rid of flare ups so I rarely have to reapply but I’d say a few hours for sure in general. You can get it all over the place these days, heck even from Mountain Bike Action. I’m sure you could just google a brick and mortar store near you. No THC in this stuff, my very conservative grandmother uses CBD.

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  14. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    I'm a believer!

    CBDs have knocked out the life-long chronic headaches my wife gets by at least 70%. She takes around 5mg every four hours. For a real bad one, usually triggered by muscle strain in her back/neck she adds on about 3mg THC. CBDs knock down the inflammation & headaches, but THC deals with muscular pain. She doesn't use recreationally, and these relatively low doses work well without any psychoactive effects. In fact she hates the smell and taste tremendously. CBDs mostly work for me when I get a headache, but I get them much more rarely so don't have a ton of feedback on it's efficacy. It doesn't really get rid of the pain, and I know it's still there in the background, but it just doesn't bother me. We both consider this stuff voodoo magic, and are continually amazed at how well it works.

    For pure CBD, Kushy Punch CBD is good: https://kushycbd.com/ We buy the squares and cut off what we need. If the low dose of 5mg doesn't do anything, double to 10, then 20. You can buy it at pretty much any dispensary, and pure CBD product is available mail-order as it is not a controlled substance. If you need higher doses, they have the softgels.

    If you want to try adding some THC to it, count your blessings you live in CA and consider the Care By Design oils: https://www.cbd.org/products
    I had to experiment a bit to find the right ratios for us, and their different formulas work great for that. I now make my own 20:1 oil, and it is much less expensive. But you kind of need to put the time and money out and see what works. We went through several different oils before settling on Care By's, and then it was figuring out the ratios.

    If you're in OC, People's in Santana has it all, and good prices: https://peoplesorangecounty.com/menu/

    FYI, we just just purchased some of CBD's 1:1 topical that seems to work amazingly on muscle pain:
    https://www.cbd.org/products/creams/1-1-cream Very pricey, but hey, if it works...
     
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  15. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Vassago/Trek
    Thanks! Great info!
     
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  16. scan

    scan Well-Known Member

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    fran allas
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  17. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
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  18. HBkites

    HBkites Well-Known Member

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    Sharone
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    So it's not available in my local drugstore? similar item?
     
  19. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
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    Probably not, but maybe.
     
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  20. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

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    Sara Ford
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    I know Lassens markets carry a decent variety of CBD products, including topical
     
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  21. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

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    Thanks for logging that info here, David. :thumbsup:
     
  22. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
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    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    The stuff works, pretty amazing IMHO.
     
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  23. buggravy

    buggravy Member

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    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    Giant Trance 29 2
    Those of you using CBD, are you mostly using topical? Within the last year I got diagnosed with Reactive Arthritis, and was put on a daily dose of a couple heavy duty meds that I really don't want to take long term. Have tried a couple different CBDs in tincture form (including the Floyd's above) in hopes of help with inflammation, but results have been nominal if anything at all. Would try topical if it's more effective, though I'd probably need a gallon jug of it. Diet and supplements are tailored towards inflammation fighting, but nothing seems to provide any meaningful relief other than the meds.
     
  24. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    I mentioned it above, but my wife uses this topical: https://www.cbd.org/products/creams/1-1-cream
    1:1 mixture, so you have to go to a dispensary to get it. For muscle pain, it works great.
     
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  25. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010

    Oh man, I’m sorry to hear of your diagnosis! I’ve used topical for my knee injury and it can help some, but it’s best used in conjunction with oral. You just have to play with the ratios until you get it dialed in. Also, my husband had some bursitis in his elbow (inflammation), and doing The Whole 30 did the trick to knock that down!
     
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  26. CBone

    CBone Well-Known Member

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    Antelope Valley
    Name:
    Tucker
    Current Bike:
    Intense Primer
    Pay close attention guys - TEST to follow.
     
  27. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Sorry, TMI?!
     
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