The Automobile Thread

Discussion in 'Free Zone' started by buggravy, Oct 20, 2019.



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  1. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon 60%
    Our MPV was great. We specifically got that as they were smaller than the others mentioned above (pre-Pacifica, would have been T&C). It could fit anywhere, fast, good mileage, banged around Big Bear fire roads, held our crap.... I miss it for sure! But my wife put the no minivan law down, and so now we have a huge hulking SUV. It's a good vehicle, and I don't begrudge it. Much better the few times a year it hits dirt, but worse for the 95% of the time it's not. So yeah, I'll definitely throw out the minivan option out there, especially for a younger active family.
     
  2. tick

    tick Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Tick
    Current Bike:
    Process 111
    We only had it 7 years/130k before it saved my wife & kids’ lives in a collision with an unlicensed driver, so I can’t speak to the true long term.

    we had one real problem, the steering angle sensor went out, which required ~$800 to fix. That’s the problem that got to me, the sensor would have been under $100 at a Ford dealer. But even basic maintenance is just so pricey at luxury dealers, the complimentary car wash doesn’t make up for it.

    but the thought of a blown turbo started crossing my mind as we got over 100k...
     
  3. scan

    scan Well-Known Member

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    Yeah you have to pay to play.
     
  4. scan

    scan Well-Known Member

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    Funny isn't it usually the other way around, the guy says no minivan, LOL
     
  5. tick

    tick Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Tick
    Current Bike:
    Process 111
    Not in my experience. Largely because the husband will expect the wife to be the primary driver...
     
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  6. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon 60%
    Anecdotally, women are the ones saying nope on the minivans. Marketing departments tell them they are still hot and happenin' if they drive a SUV. Their mothers are the ones that drove minivans, who wants to be like that!?!?! Guys probably aren't helping, but they're all buying Canyoneros anyway.
     
  7. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    We thought about taking a look at the Sedona while we were on the kia lot last night.
    It actually looks like the fuel efficiency is rated slightly less than the telluride...

    But as above... I'm not sure I could convince the wife
     
  8. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 SC Megaplower; Revel Rail
    Yeah - guilty on all counts. When we traded the Nissan Titan for a minivan, I never yearned to drive it - and certainly not to work. It was her car and our vacation car. Now that we have the Atlas, I find myself trying to convince my wife that it's too big for her and I should be driving it while she drives my 11 year old Q5. (Full disclosure, the Q5 still drives better than the Atlas - it's a size/weight thing).

    And LOL on the Canyonero comment. Squirrel squashin' deer smakin' fun!

     
  9. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Although there is the chrysler hybrid...
     
  10. tick

    tick Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Tick
    Current Bike:
    Process 111
    Marketing departments don’t convince women of anything, they merely listen to what the women are saying and give them what they want. And what they want are minivans with hinged rear doors and model names based on southwestern towns.
     
  11. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2020 Trek Fuel EX 9.7
    When my daughters Jetta was in the shop, they gave us an Atlas as a loaner. That was the nicest SUV I have ever driven and my mom has a Mercedes GLK. If I was in the market for an SUV, this would be on my very short list.
     
  12. scan

    scan Well-Known Member

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    Sienna has a hybrid now.
     
  13. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Toyotas don't play well with my 38" inseam.
     
  14. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 SC Megaplower; Revel Rail
    Did I mention the Atlas? Massive leg and head room. At 6'4" I do not have to move the seat all the way back nor all the way down to fit. I have about 4" of headroom to spare.
     
  15. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Yup, I am going to put it on the table as well.
     
  16. tick

    tick Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Tick
    Current Bike:
    Process 111
    My biggest beef with the Outback is how short and unsupportive the driver’s seat is. I rented a Yukon earlier this year, that seat was glorious and made me seriously consider getting a $70,000 depreciation machine.
     
  17. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Alright, this was put on hold for a moment due to some hard working bureaucrat combining my first and middle names as one in the social security database...

    Finally got the notice that we could go ahead, talked briefly with the agent from the car buying service at our credit union yesterday. Even within their service and preferred dealers there is still a huge mark up on the Kia's. Possibility that we could get a floor model without the markup, and only a few thousand miles on it..
    Essentially same story for the Palisades as well.

    So now looking hard at the Subaru and Volkswagen.
    Hopefully test drives soon.
    I'm still hesitant to give money to VW, because of that whole emissions scandal..... but we shall see....
     
  18. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 SC Megaplower; Revel Rail
    My wife was miffed about that too... yet we went ahead with it.
     
  19. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    2 SC and a STDM
    And the rest of the world still gets the Touareg... :thumbsdown: I would buy a 3rd in a heartbeat.
     
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  20. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Test drove the atlas
    Really like it.
    Steering feels a little loose, but otherwise...

    Big question, @herzalot get al.
    Test drove v6,
    Any thoughts on 2.0 turbo?
    Would it just feel awful and slow, and spend more time shoving that throttle higher?
     
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  21. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
  22. buggravy

    buggravy iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Calabasas
    Name:
    Matt
    Current Bike:
    GG Smash, Transition Spur
    I’ve had a Q8 and a Q7 as service loaners, both with the 2.0. I found it surprisingly adequate on those cars. I don’t know if the tune/output is different on the Atlas, but regardless I doubt it would be a total pig. It’s an impressive motor for what it is. I’m not familiar with what 6 cyl is in the Atlas. I’m sure it’s more desirable, and will feel more smooth and refined in addition to feeling more powerful, but that 2.0 has become quite the work horse for VW.
     
  23. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    2 SC and a STDM
    The V6 has been around a looonnngggg time... and has seen duty in everything from the Passat to the Phaeton to the Porsche Cayenne. I have one sitting in the driveway, and a 2.0 engine Audi sitting next to it.

    They are both smooth and fun, but the lack of a turbo is a plus for me on the V6. No lag... If you want to get on it, it responds faster in every situation.

    I believe the Atlas V6 is the same engine... tuned with a little less HP.
     
  24. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Just finished test drive in the Subaru ascent as well. We like it. Way sportier feel than the atlas. Like a big tire slack hardtail versus a 130 mm trail bike...
    Talked the kia guys down to msrp on a telluride, out of a 10000 price gouge, but I think we are taking off the list. Really nice vehicle. But we want to haggle lower than sticker, not down to sticker
     
  25. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 SC Megaplower; Revel Rail
    The Atlas is big. No getting around that.
     
  26. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    Soooo...
    Anyone else catch the Hummer commercial during the 1st inning?
     
  27. kingaucho

    kingaucho Well-Known Member

    Location:
    South OC
    Name:
    Lubo
    Current Bike:
    Giant Anthem 29er
    I did! Was more into the song!!! Love Zeppelin! Used to play the Immigrant Song with my high school band.
     
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  28. kingaucho

    kingaucho Well-Known Member

    Location:
    South OC
    Name:
    Lubo
    Current Bike:
    Giant Anthem 29er
    These are my Dad’s. Love both of them for different reasons.

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  29. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon 60%
    Love the E-Type... Cobra ain't too shabby either!
     
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  30. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    There's gonna be something very close to this sitting in our driveway soon...

    Screenshot_20201020-211329.jpg
     
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