Stans Hubs Suck!

Discussion in 'Hubs' started by herzalot, Sep 19, 2017.


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  1. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I bought my Intense Tracer 275c, DVO Edition in February of 2016. In 5 months, the Stan's HD 3.30 rear hub failed catastrophically (mechanically speaking). I sent the wheel back to Stan's (at my expense) and they laced my rim to a new Stan's Neo. Yay - except, everything I read about Stan's Neo is that they break.

    Sure enough. First, the bearings went south about two months ago. OK, replaced them at my expense. Then, when changing my rotor last Sunday, I notice a broken spoke. Hmmm, ok.

    Took it to Laguna Cyclery. Terry calls me yesterday "Yeah, Herz, your axle is broken..." F##kin' POS.

    As I mentioned in another thread, Stan's hubs are completely reliable - you can BET that they will fail. They should not be allowed to have this product on the market. Soooooo many reports of failed Stan's hubs.

    By contrast, my DT Swiss 240s required one star ratchet change in the 10 years I owned them ($50 - tool free change). No bad bearings. No broken hub body. No broken axle. I was younger and rode more often then too. They were still going strong when I sold my bike in 2016.

    I am guessing Stan's will replace them for free, as they should, but I am also sure they will replace them with another inferior product that will break within a year. I hope they've made the necessary improvements.

    Grrrrrr.... :mad:

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  2. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    @StrandLeper Do you still have your loaner Enve I could use? Pretty please? I'll be gentle.
     
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  3. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Sorry about the run of bad luck
     
  4. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Thanks. It's all as minor as can be. I bit of a bruised toe, and a broken axle. Better than the other way around!
     
  5. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    Sorry but I can't stop laughing. It is amazing that they can make such great rims yet their hubs are pure junk. I broke three 3.30HD hubs and one Neo. Oddly enough they all suffer the same failure. Every one was warrantied but what a PITA! It is literally the only brand of hub I have ever had problems with. As I stated in your other post they upgraded my Neo to a Neo Ultimate. I think I rode it once or twice before I replaced it with another wheelset. Hard to have fun on your bike when you know a part of it is going to fail.
     
  6. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    That really blows!

    How much more time, expense, aggravation and down time is this hub design going to cost you? A tough pill to swallow, but I'd take this op to get out from under those dogs. Come back home to DTS :geek:
     
  7. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    @StrandLeper comes through with the loaner wheel. I will now be the Enve of Aliso! It even has green decals - Thanks Tim!!!! :thumbsup:
     
  8. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Is that an offer? Got a spare 240 rear - 142mm Sram 11 spd. laying around? I'll buy it, or trade you for a BRAND NEW hub! :thumbsup:
     
  9. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    I wonder how long it would take Tim to notice a Stan's hub in his wheel.
     
  10. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Don't fence me in!
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  11. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Shhhhhhh!!!! :cautious: :speechless:

    Dammit... :confused:
     
  12. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    You can have the 3.30 that’s sitting in the garage. Imagine what you could trade for 2 Stan’s hubs!
     
  13. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    Friends don't let friends run Stan's hubs.

    While @herzalot rides hard, I can understand them possibly failing.

    My friend Jeremy rides like a pussycat and has broken 2 hubs. He is now rolling a DT 350 hub on Arch EX.
     
  14. H2oChick

    H2oChick Well-Known Member

    Name:
    K-Oss
    I had the wheels on my Turner built by Dave's Custom; DT Swiss 240 hubs and I have no regrets. My husband has not had to do any maintenance to them so win-win. Yes, slightly more expensive but worth it to me.
    If you have the opportunity to get Dave to build you a set, I recommend him highly.
     
  15. singlespeedrider

    singlespeedrider Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Phoenix AZ
    Name:
    Mark
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC advanced single soee
    I have thousands of miles on stans 3.30 single speed hubs with almost no issues.

    Just got a set of stans with neo hubs for my new ride. Let’s hope I do not have all the issues I keep reading.

    @mtnbikej might never ride with me again with my performance brand bars and stans hubs.
     
  16. Grego

    Grego iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    joe
    Current Bike:
    WFO9
    Great rims. Horrible hubs.
     
  17. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    Dude step away from the Stan's...
    Loved my arches... but that is as far as I will go.
     
  18. Sidewalk

    Sidewalk iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    The road is where I call home
    Name:
    Josh
    Current Bike:
    N+1
    My Ultimates have been fine so far. If they go I plan to get Project 321 hubs.
     
  19. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Good news! Stan's has already shipped a new wheel to me. They didn't even want their old one back. The new one will come with a Flow Mk 3 rim - an upgrade form the Flow EX that I had (and really liked). Wider, lighter, stronger! They are even putting on green decals for me. Awwwww, that's sweet.

    Bad news, it comes with a Stan's Neo hub. But I am CERTAIN they have made all of the manufacturing improvements necessary, right? Yeah, I don't believe it either. But as my wife said - a free replacement beats $700. Can't argue that.

    New wheel will be here next Wednesday. Gonna run up to @StrandLeper 's house here soon and steal his Bronson's rear wheel (a generous loaner) so I can ride this weekend, that is, if I don't borrow the Uber Tracer from Laguna Cyclery.
     
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  20. tbarnesarc

    tbarnesarc Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Taylor
    Current Bike:
    Stumpy Evo Mullet
    Weak. Did you contact Stan's yourself or did Terry? Reason I'm asking is I have Flow Mk3's on my shred sled as we speak.
     
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  21. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I contacted Stan's myself - both times. Via e-mail. They were very responsive.

    (You just made me realize that they actually do use the apostrophe in Stan's - as in, belonging to Stan)
     
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  22. Cornholio

    Cornholio iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    B
    Current Bike:
    Huffy
    DT 240s on every wheel for me until I find a reason to use anything else.
     
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  23. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    I'm pretty sure the Giant bikes I have are using DT internals. They haven't given me any problems whatsoever. In fact, I don't even know they're there.
     
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  24. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    You have 240s on your SJ and your new SS?
     
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  25. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    They have had plenty of time to correct this problem. Just be prepared for it to fail again.
     
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  26. Cornholio

    Cornholio iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    B
    Current Bike:
    Huffy
    SJ, yes it has 240s.. BMX bike no, don’t know if I can even run one on it. Bought it as a complete and I was talkin MTB wheels anyways. You can build an entire dream BMX bike for the price of a MTB fork.

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  27. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    Hey @herzalot, are you going to start carrying a spare hub in your pack? :whistling::):bang:
     
  28. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    $400 for a new rear wheel(DT350/Flow MK3) plus labor. :rolleyes:
     
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  29. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    I agree.....however, at this point if I ever have to replace a 240 hub, it will be with a 350. Same internals, same ratchets, same reliability, lower price, less machining, a few grams heavier. Hard to beat when it comes to bang for the buck.
     
  30. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    ...and spokes... so $550 + tax.

    Yes, the 350 makes more sense, though I've heard some amazingly loud 350s - not sure why. I've never heard a loud 240s.
     
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