St George Thanksgiving Time

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by LLPoolJ, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    We are meeting my son in Vegas for a few days. Wife suggested after we visit for a few days head up to St. George. She is not a rider. Are there things to do there? How long are the typical rides?
     
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  2. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    Contact @Cougar

    He moved out there a few months ago, so he should have a locals knowledge.
     
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  3. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Zion National Park is 30 minutes from Saint George. Several state parks. Hiking galore. Cedar Breaks & Brian Head are 70 miles away; north on I-15, turn right at Cedar City.
     
  4. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    Thanks guys
     
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  5. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Hmmmm I have Thanksgiving week off. I know @Cougar is probably missing his old riding buddy...

    :sneaky:
     
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  6. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    @herzalot I'm actually going to be driving back to SoCal for part of that week (my Dad and FIL are still in the area) Turkey day specifically in Dana Point/RSM. So let's chat, I was going to reach out when my plans got firmer :)

    As far as what I've discovered being a St. George local:

    • Depending on where you are staying, you have a lot of ride options from 15-65min from St. George.
    • There are almost no climb sufferfests to be had (no Mathis, no Blackstars, no fire road climbs of doom)
    • That also means there aren't very many 5-40min gravity fueled trails to be had after doing your sufferfest (no Rock-It, no San Juan, etc.)
    • Lots of paved bike paths and a strong roady community/events (not that I have any personal experience there) - but I have taken the family (3 boys and a non-biking wife) to some of the bike paths with success
    • Most of the rides near town have a Choose Your Own Adventure length to them. Lots of loops and possibilities for combining trails, or to just do a trail on it's own. You can just as easily put together a 30min loop as you can a 2hr loop -- I have not yet tried to do any 3+ hour suffer fest locally as of yet, mostly keeping my rides in the 10-15mile range (usually only 1k elevation, but you can get 1-2k in that mileage with different trail selections)
    • Some epics are within that driving range; Gooseberry Mesa, Hurricane Rim, The Whole Guacamole - but they are all near the outer time limit of 60min from St. George
    • Of those, I've only yet done Gooseberry Mesa - very challenging terrain, especially coming from SoCal. Lots of start/stops - technical burst-y rock climbing, not a ton of flow although the northern rim had a bit more flow
    • Overall I've found my Enduro bike to be a bit of overkill for many of the trails I've been choosing; an FS XC bike would be a killer steed out here --- note as I'm riding solo, I am riding cautiously and choosing easier trails to warm up to the area/terrain before I tackle the super gnarly stuff
    • Note; Brian Head/Cedar City area is within the same time distance as the epics above and provide a bit more elevation opportunities. I did go up to Brian Head a few weekends ago and did their bike park up there. It didn't have as many options as say Snow Summit, but far more natural features than SS. (Almost no man made jumps/table tops -- the DH trails are legit; rocky and steep)
    • For family dirt riding; look no further than Bear Claw Poppy in the SW part of town. Choose your own adventure of green/blue/black on the 1-way downhill, lots of criss crossing options. The climb isn't a big deal, especially if you go to the shortest possible climb transition to the downhill. Trailforks has the downhill section listed as blue, but I'm near 100% positive that there is a dedicated green trail option at every fork
    Feel free to ask questions!
     
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  7. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    Thanks @Cougar for the ride info.
    My wife hikes a little, looking for stuff she can do while I ride other than hiking.
     
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  8. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    I'm not a huge hiker myself, so I'm unsure what to look for in that. But the SW of St. George / S of Santa Clara has a lot of options for smaller bike loops (that can be big hiking loops) inclusive of Zen Trail (which is a destination trail in and of itself).

    Hiking in that area is usually talked about in reference to Zion National Park, but there's no riding inside that Park. The Whole Guacamole is close to Zion, but still a bit of a haul if you were to drop your wife off at Zion and then drove over there. (Probably to the point of impracticality).

    Grafton Mesa area is probably a bit more doable if you left your wife at Zion, but I haven't explored over there yet personally.

    Ultimately, I think finding a place in the Zen Trail area for your wife to hike and you to bike is probably your best bet. Lots of different lengths and loops for you to bike depending on how long your wife is going to be out and about. Still great views and interesting terrain to both hike and bike in. (from Zen Trail up to Barrel Roll north of there).
     
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  9. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    Zen Trail is a good option for you to ride....you wife can hike. It’s about a 1 hr loop for you. She can hike out a ways and turn around. Views are spectacular. Challenging for both of you.
     
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  10. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    Thanks guys. Any nightlife in town @Cougar
     
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  11. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripmo, Ripley & Tranny
    We're going to be there 10/5-10/8. You should come join us for a ride.
     
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  12. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    @Cougar have you gone up Kolob Terrace out of Virgin yet? Looks pretty promising before you hit the NP boundary.
     
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  13. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    I'm game :)

    @Runs with Scissors No, not yet. I've only gone north of town once for the bike park at Brian's Head. I'll take a look at it. I was trying to see if I could get up to Signal Peak, but it only looks like there is a hiking trail up there - not much mountain riding in that range sadly.
     
  14. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripmo, Ripley & Tranny
    I'll pm you my #. Not sure which trails we're riding which day as @mtbMike is the trail boss for the weekend but we can connect when it gets closer.
     
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  15. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    When you get a bit of free time, head up to between Cedar City and Beaver - only about 1.5 hours north of you. Fishlake National Forest. Literally a thousand miles of trails. Granted, they're mostly designed for ATVs, but that doesn't stop a bike from riding on them.
     
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  16. mtbMike

    mtbMike Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Oceanside
    Name:
    Mike
    Current Bike:
    Intense Tracer & Primer
    I’m game to do whatever. I’ve ridden them all but usually stick towards Hurricane. Always love a Zen ride though. Whatever @pperrelle and his buddy want to ride is fine with me.
     
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  17. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripmo, Ripley & Tranny
    We’re counting on you to show us the Hurricane goods. :thumbsup:
     
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  18. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    I think @Cougar likes fun trails... :sneaky: ;) :D
     
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  19. kazindeep

    kazindeep Newbie with Hope!

    Name:
    Norm
    I ride there a lot because of a friend that lives in Virgin and I have ridden in all of the areas mentioned above. If I were bringing my wife, I would drop her off at the bus in Zion Canyon and she can do one of the many spectacular hikes and take the bus back to Springfield and shop or dine/drink while you are riding Gooseberry mesa or the trails in the wire mesa area. Those are the closest to Zion and you can find out everything you need to know from Mtb project or Trailforks. Oh, I forgot that Guacamole is also very close to Zion. I think this is a plan that will make both of you happy. Good luck!
     
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  20. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic and Stumpy
    Thanks, that is good info
     
  21. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Hmmmm, you have a very independent and understanding wife. Mine is too, but dropping her at the bus to go hike Zion while I ride would NOT go over well. Neither would leaving her to dine and drink alone. :stop: But thanks for the tip nonetheless. It may work for some, ya never know. :thumbsup:
     
  22. kazindeep

    kazindeep Newbie with Hope!

    Name:
    Norm
    Bless your heart...
     
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