Sorry......Gotta Vent

Discussion in 'Free Zone' started by mtnbikej, May 17, 2018.

  1. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    What is it with Society these days?

    You cannot go anywhere public with someone begging for a handout.

    You can’t go into a store, gas station or restaurant without someone begging for money. When did begging become a job?

    Today leaving a Subway for lunch a lady was sitting in front of a smoke shop sucking on a cigarette, and still begged for gas money.

    I get it....times are tough, but it’s just too much. Unfortunately the ones that truly do need assistance , are just getting info ignored with the rest of them.

    I just ignore and tune them out. Just sooo tired of it.

    Thanks for letting me vent.
     
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  2. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    Smoking a $0.50 cigarette at that.. I totally agree and am restraining myself from getting into a long rant about the amount of taxes paid into the system versus those who abuse the system and don’t contribute anything to it at all.
     
  3. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    I was always told that there are plenty of places to go such as shelters and churches if you are in need. If that's the case you don't have to go more than a block or two in Simi Valley for help. I guess that's just too much for some people?
     
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  4. jimbowho

    jimbowho Member

    Location:
    acton
    Name:
    james jim jimmy
    Current Bike:
    12 GT sensor 29r
    Emptied van of all stuff. Was a run errands day. At the gas station young guy gives spiel about how he needs a fan belt. He clearly had nothing to do until Oct-2019. I said man this is great! I can really use your help at the spray wash next door. Together we can knock it out in an hour and a half or less. Job pays 20.00, wash-scrub-vac-windows etc. Said no, but thanks anywayo_O
     
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  5. Luis

    Luis iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Sylmar
    Name:
    Luis
    Current Bike:
    Big Black 29er
    True, but 95% of these shelters are "Dry" shelters, meaning that there is no alcohol or drugs allowed and in the eyes of some people that means too many rules or restrictions.
    So guess what, they prefer to live on the streets.
     
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  6. Danimal

    Danimal Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Rocky Mountain Altitude
    Guy approached me at gas station while I'm pumping gas holding a gas can .Asked for some money for gas because he ran out .
    No problem, bring your can over here and I'll put some gas in it.
    Says no he wants the money to buy the gas.

    Not the brightest guy.....he got nothing.
     
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  7. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    My wife and I give to quite a few different charities... But I refuse to sign petitions or give handouts in front of the grocery store.
     
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  8. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Come on down to the civic center to get your fill of panhandlers and "differently abled" denizens of this fine city. :eek:
     
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  9. Torrent77

    Torrent77 Member

    Name:
    Dave
    Didn't they clear out those riffraff the same time they cleared the santa ana river trail? I remember going to jury duty at the civic center and saw the sea of tents.
     
  10. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    Similar story. Years ago while working night sort at UPS I had just gotten off the freeway and this guy approaches me at the signal light asking for money for gas as he had just ran out and needed to get back to Palmdale. I said sorry I'm late for work and he said no worries. Two weeks later the same guy approaches me at the same signal light and gives me the same story. I had to ask. "Again? Didn't you run out of gas two weeks ago?" His eyes bugged out and he turned around and walked away.
     
  11. Danimal

    Danimal Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Rocky Mountain Altitude
    Cleared out the tents and squatters...
    But they had to go somewhere .

    And @Faust29 I'm with you on the petitions etc. It ain't happening.
     
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  12. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS

    Don’t even get me started on the Gurl Scout mother’s at cookie time.
     
  13. Danimal

    Danimal Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Rocky Mountain Altitude
    And there not even good cookies :eek:

    On this subject, what about co-workers pimping their kids crap at work. Really??
     
  14. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    Hey, wait a minute... Girl Scout Cookies are on the exempt list! Have you never tried a caramel deLite???? :p
     
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  15. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    My issue is more with getting surrounded by the pack of hyenas when you exit the store.
     
  16. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Different civic center and city. :p
     
  17. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    At the shop I work at, is in a not so good neighborhood and we get tons of homeless coming in and asking for money and bike parts. This is daily basis, some are mentally ill and some are just lazy.

    As for the Girl Scout selling cookies, i’d rather give to a good cause than give to someone who will either smoke or drink up what you gave them.
     
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  18. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    Meh, I'm more annoyed by the $13 million and counting to fly Trump down to Mar a Lago and Bedminster every weekend, but that's just me.
     
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  19. konakc

    konakc Well-Known Member

    Name:
    kc
    I'm grateful that I have everything that I could ever need and most of the things that I want. Yes even an urban Mountain biking trail out my front door.
    So most of the time when I see homeless people I try to keep things in perspective. I never give them money. Mostly I ignore them.

    Sometimes, I ask them, can I buy you something to eat? Most of the time, they say no thanks. But once this old lady said, sure, "I'm hungry!" We were next to a fast food place, and I don't know why, but I asked her if she wanted to eat at Kings Fish house instead. We walked in. She asked me if that was ok to go inside. I said sure. She smelled a little. The waiter looked at us a little funny. We sat down. I ordered. "What would you like, you can get whatever you want?" Same as you, she said.
    She ate every single morsel of fried oysters and chips.
    When we were done, she said, "I've never had oysters before. They sure are good."
    "would you like to take these home?"
    She took my left over with her and put it in her bag as if it was a bag of gold.

    That really was a good plate of oysters.
     
  20. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    Thanks dude. Now every other customer asks me if I have been crying. What a wonderful gesture. :)
     
  21. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    La Verne, CA
    Name:
    Dennis (AKA Dio)
    Current Bike:
    2013 Trek Slash 9 (26er)
    I appreciate that some collect the recyclables from the trash for a nickel. However, I loathe the garbage left behind in the gutter.
     
  22. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    Thankfully, the PD in my area moves the homeless out when they are encountered. But I am approached often enough in neighboring communities. I just ignore them and don't make eye contact. If they address me, I tell them that I am unable to help. About 99% of them are respectful of that.

    I agree about the vultures waiting outside the super market. That should be illegal. IMO, it borders on invasion of privacy.

    There is too many people in this corner of the world. That is the real problem. What can society do about it?
     
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  23. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Yes. Schools make kids fundraise for the kinds of things we really ought to be purchasing. What happened to the Lottery money or the pot money that was supposed to go to schools so schools don't pimp our kids?

    My daughter was expected to raise $100 in pledges for a jog-a-thon. In Laguna. The school district that is so wealthy from local property taxes they do not receive State funding.
     
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  24. Paul Hales

    Paul Hales Member

    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula, Australia
    Name:
    Paul Hales
    Current Bike:
    Norco Torrent custom build
    My first full time job was working at a large bank in the records rooms. Decent job, but didn't pay that well and got boring after a few years.

    When we finished at the end of the day (due to security) the guards would let us out in batches of 20 or so. The homeless people figured this out and would pounce from the shadows.

    I remember one guy asking for money for a train ticket and (me being quick that day!) giving him mine before anyone could respond. The barely masked anger on his face was priceless. :devilish:
     
  25. Redman

    Redman Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cypress, Ca
    Name:
    Kevin
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Nomad CC 27.5
    The presence of homeless people don’t really bother me. I carry some of our old clothes in my car. If I get hit up at a light by panhandler, or even see one on the corner. I offer them some clothing. 9 out 10 times they take it and are very appreciative. I never give them money.
     
  26. Paul Hales

    Paul Hales Member

    Location:
    Mornington Peninsula, Australia
    Name:
    Paul Hales
    Current Bike:
    Norco Torrent custom build
    I once saw a panhandler hit a tourist with a chair leg for not giving the panhandler enough money. That bothered me. :cautious:
     
  27. konakc

    konakc Well-Known Member

    Name:
    kc
    Whether or not to give money to homeless people is ur choice.. i cant knock generosity...
    I just dont. Bc of what i have seen n been told..regarding drug n alcohol usage..
    One fellow told me the only thing that mattered in his life was to get enough money to buy alcohol.. enough so that he could pass out.. he did not care about anything else.. and so he lost everything one by one..
     
  28. HBkites

    HBkites Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Huntington Beach
    Name:
    Sharone
    Current Bike:
    Why Cycles S7
    I guess I'm missing out...... I haven't been to a grocery store in a while.
     
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  29. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    La Verne, CA
    Name:
    Dennis (AKA Dio)
    Current Bike:
    2013 Trek Slash 9 (26er)
    Second to logistics, granted which is a biggie, the permanent occupants of mass transit stations are the most tangible obstruction to people using alternative modes of transportation.
     
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  30. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lake Hughes
    Name:
    Sara Ford
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 50/10
    Sorry you guys, I have to chime in. :oops:
    I’ve wondered many times who I’d be if I’d been raised differently. What if I was abused or my parent was a drug user, or maybe I was never shown love or how to be a responsible human. This is what I think of when I see people on the street, whether panhandling or prostituting...would I be like them if I’d been raised in a Sh!t environment?? I have no clue, but I know I can’t judge because I have no right, life’s been pretty fair to me.
    Don’t get me wrong I’m no saint, I don’t give anything and I’m really uncomfortable and sometimes even lie about having no $$.
    Anyways...hope you don’t banish me from this forum;) I respect yalls opinions:thumbsup:
     
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