One More eBike Debate

Well hey Mikie, just got back from riding Boy Scout (not a Boy Scout) (not that there is anything wrong with that) and I’m feeling cleansed of all negative fashizzle! Hah!

 

Huh! So you are saying ...riding your bike is, what... good?

 

What happened here? I think i missed something...

 

I have no angst.. none none none!

 

Ok u all... we r all mtbkers..nothing bothers us bc all we have to do is go for a ride .. and poof everthing is good
My dog got eaten by a coyote
Ride. poof all better
Involved in a murder trial for the last week..
Ride. poof all better
Got passed by an ebike..choke on dust..
Haha im riding! Poof.. all better!

 

Danimal..
I enjoy ur posts..
Diversity of views ..

 

Ah, YEP! Good for my soul! Real good!

 

Ok the dog getting eaten.. that one still hurts...
I hate coyotes..
Beautiful animals though...
I still look in the bushes for the collar w my phone number on it...

 

Hey @Mikie you are correct. Life's been challenging lately and I love this place. it's kinda my get away from life's BS.

F'it, I'll go ride the my bike and POOF all will be good with the imtb world.

 

Do e-bikes come in 26er yet?

 

@Mikie Thank you for this post. I did click into @Ebruner 's post about his dad's ride earlier this week. It was new, and I chose not to voice my opinion. I never went back to see what others posted.

My view on E-bikes remains unchanged. When I ride I see incredible things, I experience things that my wife, my son, my mom and dad will never experience because they are simply not fit to make that journey. Do I wish that I could share what I experience with those that I love most? YES.

As I have said before, We don't all get to have the same experiences.

That would be UNAMERICAN-Right? You work to get what you want. You work to get where you want.

E-MTBikes are the MTB equivalent of welfare. E-MTBikes are the MTB equivalent of a "bailout". E-MTBikes are a statement of "Thank you for the infrastructure, thank you for the blood, sweat, and tears, but, I'm going to do whatever I want like a f@cking child. And......F@ck YOU!!!"

If you love this whole E-thing, come to LA and ride a f@cking E-scooter. They are everywhere. Go-To-Town.

 

Ya know?
I really like this post!
I’m real sorry about your doggy though...

 

It doesn't take an e-mtb to mess up trail access.

That is all. I got no room for self-righteous anger.

 

Electric mountain bikes have garnered a lot of attention for their ability to help riders go higher, further, and faster on the trail. As a result, there have been some impressive new eMTB models to hit the market in recent years, making it easier than ever to head off-road. Our favorite is the Haibike SDURO HardNine, which comes equipped with a 350-watt Bosch Performance CX drive and a 500 watt-hour battery. This gives it a range of up to 70 miles, along with a top speed of 20 mph, which is plenty fast on singletrack.

Bosch continues to push off-road use for e-bikes - DESPITE their official stance.

 

Resistance is futile? A road-ish model: 12 mph w/o pedaling; up to 22 mph going up one of Palo Alto's supposedly toughest climbs..

"For our visit, Specialized outfitted us with the Turbo Vado 5.0, a bike boasting a 350-watt motor, 604-watt-hour lithium-ion battery, and the capability to go up to 80 miles on a single charge."

"With the highest pedal-assist mode (dubbed, unsurprisingly, Turbo), a pump or two was all that was needed before the bike’s motor kicked in, sending us blazing at around 12 miles per hour down the road."

"Then we arrived at one of the city’s steeper hills, a street avid cyclers view as one of the toughest climbs to conquer in the city. Unsurprisingly, the Vado handled it with utter ease as we were able to keep the bike moving along at around 20 to 22 miles per hour for nearly the entire climb. Granted, we also pushed ourselves to the limit, cruising through the ride at a low enough gear to keep the bike moving and breaking a solid sweat in the process. After climbing for roughly two miles, the group slowed down to catch their breath and marvel at the Vado’s ability."

https://www.digitaltrends.com/outdoors/specialized-turbo-vado-first-take/

 

While I was waiting in the jury room all day in downtown, I was seeing this bike go by every so often. It could have been a courier for the courts. It was a cool looking rig.

https://igoelectric.com/products/igo-fat-folding-electric-fat-bike

 

A buddy of mine (guy that was selling the Ti Vaya) bought one of these for the family. Kids uses it to go to high school, parents use it for errands, pack it up and take it with them on camping trips. They love it!

 

Ska is just...FUN!

 

LOL what's with the slicks?

By the way... if an ebike will get my wife to ride with me... I will beat a path to the ebike store.

 

G-One Speeds roll really well on pave and are passable on hardpack and gravel

it likely will, and you probably should... just be prepared to buy two

 

Back in the day, my wife (a figure skater) used to roller blade next to me while I would run along Lake Michigan in Chicago. We used to road bike on some of the bike paths north of the city.

California is too hilly for her. She doesn't enjoy it She doesn't enjoy that the hills are the reason I enjoy it

 

@levity , you are of the devil...
In all seriousness, is this pic an eBike legal trail?

 

Yep, didn’t even have to climb over any gates.

FYI, Class I ebikes are allowed in most (all?) Utah State Parks.

Same for Calif., Chino Hills SP and Crystal Cove SP being local examples.

 

Well of course they are, we are on the cusp of trasitioning to the new norm!

 

You are fooling yourself or worse. Ebikes are ridden in Crystal Cove, to be sure. But they are explicitly not allowed.

http://www.crystalcovestatepark.org/rules/

 

Thanks for the heads-up and link, tick. I called the Ranger office to inquire a couple of months ago. They weren’t sure, but the Super called me back and said Class I ebikes we’re ok. We’re on the road to Utah today, but I’ll check again when we return next month.

 

Effective July 17, 2018, Class I and Class II e-bikes are not allowed on anything other than paved bike trails that explicitly allow them. Class III e-bikes are not even allowed there. Otherwise all e-bikes must stay on surface streets.

Orange County Codified Ordinances prohibit the use of motorized conveyances in County parks and recreation areas. This includes the use of all types of e-bikes and e-mountain bikes in regional and wilderness parks.

A July 17, 2018 revision to OCCO 2-5-29(n) makes the following exception for some regional bikeways: “Class 1 and Class 2 electric bicycles, as defined by the California Vehicle Code, on those regional paved, off-road bikeways designated for such use by the Director of OC Parks.”

Currently, this means that Class 1 and 2 electric bicycles are only permitted on the following County bikeways: Coyote Creek, Santa Ana River Trail, Bay View, San Diego Creek, Peters Canyon, Hicks Canyon, Aliso Creek, Salt Creek Trail and San Juan Creek bikeways.

Visitors riding e-bikes in other County park facilities or trails are subject to citation.

Here is the Official LINK.

 

I don’t know these trails..is this a good thing for us non ebikers?