One More eBike Debate

Move along. Move along.

 

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Correct we all speed.

 

Over it... see you on the trails.

 

@Mikie don't despair. Those who know how to deal with reality will stick. Will it be enough to make this site viable? Only time will tell.

@Ebruner 's story was moving. It was telling. It was from the heart, and I think it was a wonderful and compelling thing, the sort of thing I wish I could have shared with my father. The fact that we acknowledge that is what's important; the fact that we digress and bring up other, tangential discussions along with it is a good thing.

Let's not forget the venue. This site is in the ether; to many it is therefore not reality. They may say things here they would never say in person. It's not the same.

At the same time, let's try to remember that it is in the ether. What is said here really isn't going to change the world; it's not going to change anyone's life; it's for sure not going to get anyone killed. If we disagree, it's completely expected. We're individuals. It's how we react to that disagreement that almost matters.

I'm one of those who is comfortable in his own skin. I really don't care whether other people agree with me. If others can meet me halfway, and enjoy the discussion for what it is, fine. If not, well, no skin off my nose. I'm good with that too.

What we do here is exchange stories, views, passions, and sometimes expose our inner demons and bigotry. So be it. Let the other guy be who he is. If you (any of you) can't accept that, ignore it. It's way more productive to ignore it than to fight it.

 

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Fighting to ignore this statement, not producing results tho....
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I have to ask....the fact that I have stated positions that you don't agree with is important enough to cause you angst? I really am curious....

 

You, I mean they, are sick.

 

That may be the case , but then I guess it can all even out on the down hill, when you know that guy is still behind you somewhere, but you can’t feel or hear him anymore? And he might be on a 26” bike?

 

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Just messing with your words
It sounds funny....what does ignoring something produce?
Fighting something can produce change or whatever.

Just messing, no angst!
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Got it.

But in all seriousness what it produces is a lack of flame wars. Which is always a good thing, because those always end in flames.

 

Prove it.

 

I still prefer my Stumpjumper... but my Levo is a fun bike to ride!

(my emphasis)

 

26"? And I'm the guy pushing the envelope?!

I'm (relatively) new to the sport... I've never actually owned a 26" bike.

 

Until the site momentum is driving mountain bikers away. That's when I step in...

 

I'm new to it myself, but I actually had a 26" bike. From Walmart (or equivalent). It served its purpose. Then I replaced it.

 

That’s the best way to be!

 

I agree with you 100%! For me personally..hearing, reading, watching people argue just brings up a little anxiety so I steer clear. That’s just me.. and to each his own But I will fight for what I strongly believe in if necessary, so don't think of me as a wuss.

 

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if reality is driving people away then this venue is not viable to begin with.

If the majority really cannot discuss and discourse with those with whom they may disagree, the yes, it's doomed. Do the majority of folks here really go there? They leave because their sensibilities are offended?

I'm having a hard time understanding how anyone who can ride a bike can be this shallow.

 

I suggest you subscribe to Tommy's YouTube channel for concrete examples.

 

Some are just sensitive and may not be able to control those feelings. Even if its just a conversation.
Debate is to close to heated argument for me. I still struggle to stay out of it even though it brings anxiety to me also. Grew up with constant argueing, no likie. Want people to be able to express themselves but our need to be right causes friction in many cases.
Keeping away from heated subjects on this sight would be beneficial. There are plenty of places to play those games.

 

Sorry. I don't do social media. Unless this counts as such and then this is the limit of it.

 

My sentiments exactly! Or maybe we can set up an argument/ debate thread and we sensitive souls can stay fa fa away!

 

Wow, this takes me back

 

Wait. Don't you know that 110% of the world's population has personal Facebook pages?

 

Tommy is the “Look at Me” YouTuber who is shooting us in the foot, and helping to lose access to trails. You may not do social media, but that doesn't mean it won't impact you. Sadly.

 

Exactly, this is my one and only social media outlet. And it's seems to be less and less an enjoyable outlet and more confrontational and divisive.

I hate to say this, but it might be a good idea for me to step away until the fun returns. I'll decide on how I feel over the next few days .

Now carry on y'all.

 

Can’t ‘like’ this one

 

Okay, now wait a minute...
Now you know I ain’t picking on you Dan-O...

But that brings up a point.
We have had good threads and not so good threads. I don’t like the not so good threads just as much as anyone else. But pretty confident we have had WAYYYY more good threads than bad.

But there are a lot more good options here than one thread going astray or having a tough or heated debate. One can always choose to not engage or even click on the thread.

I agree we have had our share of tough threads lately, but c’ mon, for the most part this typically is a happy place.

Since when are we going to start censoring what anyone says. I mean, sometimes heated debates happen. I would prefer it to be an intelligent unemotional discussion. And I only mean unemotional in relation to name calling, I guess yelling would mean all caps and lots of exclamation points...

Once again as some recall we are arguing over eBikes for the most part. And what did we have to end up doing the last time we had the eBike wars? That’s right, we banned the discussions.

Do what I do all. When you want or got to have a tough conversation with someone here on imtbtrails... PM them!

It’s not all going to be rainbows and unicorns here (that’s your cue @doublewide )
and there will be more tough discussions in the future as well.

But I really think it’s time to get back to serious imtbusiness!

So can we let this fashizzle go for a while and go ride our bikes?
And focus on important things like Taco Tuesday, the Derailed Thread, life behind bars, you know... the important stuff!

 

Yep, this is social media, everyones seems to have different levels of addiction to it!