new update to Pivot 429 trail

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Derkderkall, May 17, 2018.

  1. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    http://www.pivotcycles.com/bike/trail-429/#1

    Reviewers have always shown a lot of love for this bike, lately they still show the love, but complain that it was seriously in need of an update..

    well. here it is. Upped the travel to 120 in the rear. Takes 27.5+, a few tweaks to the angles...

    I'm really digging the red frame...
     
  2. konakc

    konakc Well-Known Member

    Name:
    kc
    the picture on my avatar is a 429 trail. I love that bike. Its perfect for everything in LA/OC.. good enough climber and can go downhill w/o breaking my wrists... Although I realize there is no such thing as an all around bike, this comes close.. Can't wait to demo the new updated version... actually better not.
     
  3. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    An ode to the Hightower's colorway! Looks nice though, pretty much what I'm looking for in a bike: Trail bike in the shorter 120-130 range, with Boost/plus capacity.
    (Found the price) Are they PRC or ROC made?
     
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  4. konakc

    konakc Well-Known Member

    Name:
    kc
    oh dang.. I gotta go to work but just quickly read the link... it improves in all areas... a little more in the rear,, a little lighter.. and that red!
     
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  5. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    I loved my 429. The new red color makes it look like a Hightower, which has already been said above...
     
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  6. Danimal

    Danimal Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Rocky Mountain Altitude
    My friend bought one at a pivot demo 4-5 months ago .
    429 trail to replace his curent 429 ( which is now for sale, XL size ) .
    Pivot couldn't produce it until April, then cancelled the order saying the bike was discontinued . He had paid in full over $6k in advance, so was surprised.

    Ended up on a santa Cruz hightower CC XO1.

    So, will pivot actually ship it if bought?
    Who knows.....
     
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  7. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    Maybe due to the fact that they were getting ready to switch to the new model?
     
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  8. Danimal

    Danimal Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Rocky Mountain Altitude
    Who knows, they didn't give much info when cancelled.
    They said it was a new model at time of purchase..... at least that's what I was told during the demo. :cautious:
     
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  9. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    A little bit of communication goes a long way...
     
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  10. muni

    muni Member

    Location:
    Downtown Los Angeles
    Name:
    Mike
    Current Bike:
    17 Yeti SB5
    Only problem is super boost rear hub. Difficult to buy wheelsets with 157mm. Also super boost would effect crank q factor. For short travel, don't you want lowest possible q factor to be able to comfortably pedal all day.
     
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  11. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Strange... I had a friend who had the exact same experience. Even the same sized frame. Also ended up with a Hightower. So weird!
     
  12. Grassblade23

    Grassblade23 Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Iron Horse Quantum/Chumba XCL
    It's called 157, but it is the same width as the old 150 DH standard, (Which, IIUC is part of why they chose it.)
    The only real problem for me with SuperboostplusextraBBQOMGWTFeleventyone, is that I want my next trail bike and my next hard tail to both share 29/B+ wheels. I'm getting a Karate Monkey for the Full Rigid/HT duties, and it is 145 Gnot Boost, (148/142 compatible.) The 157 and the PF BB aren't deal breakers for me, just bummers.

    I rode the Mach429Trail and loved it, (Of the 24 bikes I've demo'd over the last 4 years, it is tied for #1 with it's stable mate, the Switchblade.) It has a flexy backend, (At least under my 275 lb carcass,) but somehow this doesn't bother me while riding. The Switchblade, (Which is also SuperDoubleDogDareBoostPlus,) doesn't feel flexy at all. I can't help but think that had something to do with the DH hub spacing on the new Trail 429.

    I LOVE the aesthetics of the frame. I loathe the gross, swoopy, broken back look of older pivots, and I really like the functional, BMX-esque look of the Mach 5.5 and the T429. It's on the shortlist for next trail bike, (Devinic Django 29, Evil Following MB, or Salsa HT/PR could edge it out on hub size or vagaries of linkage feel.) If it was available alloy, 148, & threaded BB, it'd probably be in the lead.
     
  13. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    Have you rode the django 29? Really interested in that bike, seems right on the lines of what I would want for my next bike(similar to this 429, but more affordable for us pleb types).wondering how you found it size wise...
     
  14. Grassblade23

    Grassblade23 Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Iron Horse Quantum/Chumba XCL
    Unfortunately, I've only rolled around the parking lot on one. I was curious about it, but after riding the Salsa Pony Rustler, (Also a Split Pivot,) I got more interested in the Django. The standover on the SPR is a bit high, and I like the numbers better, (on paper) for the Django. My LBS is trying to get another demo in, so I'll be sure to ride it if I can.
     
  15. Grassblade23

    Grassblade23 Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Iron Horse Quantum/Chumba XCL
    Another point in the Devinci's favor is that they offer both carbon and alloy frame only, (QBP only sometimes offers the Horsethief carbon frame. If I wanted an alloy Pony Rustler, I'd have to buy complete.) I'm not a carbon hater by any means, but given a choice and a $900 price difference, I'll take the weight penalty of alloy, (And the ability to make a shiny frame.)
     
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  16. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    For me,a huge draw of Devinci is they still make their alloy frames in Quebec!
     
  17. Grassblade23

    Grassblade23 Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Iron Horse Quantum/Chumba XCL
    That's a definite plus for me as well. I don't turn my nose up at ROC made frames, (My current fleet is about 50/50 US or Taiwanese origin,) but all other things being equal, North American manufacture will win out.
     
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