Metallic, Resin....

Discussion in 'Pads' started by Derkderkall, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Grego

    Grego Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    joe
    Current Bike:
    WFO9
    Best of both worlds. But this can backfire as you will also have the worst of both worlds.

    Brake feel - Compared to metallic, the resin pads are soft and can give a more spongy feel. The metal in metallic makes a more rigid pad that gives more of an on/off feel. Although not a huge difference, you could achieve an in-between feel by having one of each.

    Sticky piston syndrome - On some calipers one piston will always work its way out farther than the other causing misalignment. The more free piston gets the resin as it will react as needed to compensate for the rapid wearing resin. The sticky piston gets the slower wearing metallic.

    Harmonic vibration - The different resins have different weight. The pads will not vibrate at the same frequency. Possible canceling out each others tendency to vibrate.

    YMMV
     
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  2. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    But I'd have to buy twice as many sets. :bang:
     
  3. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS

    This was one of the voodoo/black magic ways of making Avid Juicy/Elixir brakes from not producing the turkey warble that most experienced.
     
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  4. TwoWheel Eric

    TwoWheel Eric Member

    Location:
    Orange County
    Name:
    Eric
    Current Bike:
    TallBoy 3 29"
    Shimano metallics have always squealed for me. So I pulled the metallics off my new Shimano brakes (to replace SRAM level ultimates, but that's another thread) and put on resin, then looking at the brand new metal pads in my parts bin over the last year going un-used, I figured what the heck and went for half and half on the front a few weeks ago to see what would happen....works great. No squeal and braking feels more powerful. To make it even a bit more weird, the metal pad has the heat dissipation fins and the resin doesn't.
     
  5. Obsidian

    Obsidian Member

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    2017 Intense Tracer
    The better question is "what is your favorite chain lube?" Exactly.
     
  6. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    I use a 50-50 mixture of Rock "N" Roll Blue and Rock "N" Roll Red. I call it "Purple Rain".
     
  7. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    Rock n Roll red Rocks!!!
     
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  8. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    We truly need a good facepalm emoji...
     
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  9. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    I just spit on the chain when it looks dry. And when it really hot and dry, like during the Summer, I pee on it instead. It's called "Golden Shower".
     
  10. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Read the thread title people... :bang:
     
  11. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    As if that ever stopped us. :p
     
  12. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    Red Resin chain, got it.
     
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  13. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Not sure how far you'd get with a resin chain, no matter the color. :whistling:
     
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  14. Obsidian

    Obsidian Member

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    2017 Intense Tracer
    Yes, let's ask a personal opinion question on a mountain bike forum, as those questions are always super productive.:rolleyes:

    What is the best ................... lube?, chain?, dropper post?, tires?, tires for SoCal, LOL?, stem length?, travel?, bike?, bike brand? I know ... did I leave anything out?

    All above referenced threads are exactly the same ... as in personal experience and personal opinion. But you already knew that.
     
  15. doublewide

    doublewide iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Mark
    Current Bike:
    Ride Life Ride Giant
    But my opinion is the best and the most valuable! And to think I give it to you clowns for free.....:Roflmao
     
  16. Ebruner

    Ebruner Well-Known Member

    Name:
    Erik Bruner
    Current Bike:
    SC Hightower, Kona Hei Hei
    I'm guilty of this... so just to shift the paradigm a bit... I stumbled onto this guys youtube channel during my daily, mobility strecthing and youtube session. At first I was slightly annoyed by this guys video style but it ends up pretty endearing.


    In this vid he goes over a technique of evening out brake caliper pistons and providing some lubrication to the piston seals. Initially I was very dubious of his methods for several reasons. Turns out, I've done this on two bikes that have come through my garage (one being mine) with sorta so/so lever feel and brake consistency and this trick has worked great. This isn't an end all be all to brake issues, but it does seem to fix those stubborn brakes that feel not quite right even after a fresh bleed and new pads. This trick was especially helpful for a recent set of XTs and a set of guide r's that were performing decently but just didn't feel confidence inspiring and the brake rub wasn't quite perfect.

    YMMV.
     
  17. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    I just stuck with metallic, seeing as that's what I think I already had, and did the trick.
     
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  18. mike

    mike iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Used to think I had to have resin compound pads. I tried metallic again and realized that, on my current bikes, metallic stops great, lasts long and doesn’t ruin rotors appreciably faster.

    Occasionally knocking back the pad glaze with emery cloth and hitting the rotor with Scotchbrite pad keeps mine and hers quiet.