Metallic, Resin....

Discussion in 'Pads' started by Derkderkall, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29
    Cherry Poppin the brake pad forum... oooooooooooo yeah.

    Need some new front pads on my bike. Brakes are Shimano Deore XT M8000, Shimano site says resin comes standard, (I looked up my order history on Jenson and that listing says ceramic?).

    I'm thinking maybe trying the sintered replacements... for the following reasons - from reading Art's cyclery post.

    200 lb load on the bike
    better heat dissipation for my cheapo rotors,
    Better wear on the downhills,

    So... what do you run, any input on pad material... experiences...
     
  2. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I use resin for silent braking.

    That said, I needed pads and all that were available at that moment were metallic. They're on the back of the XTC and I've been pleasantly surprised so far. My previous experiences with them were not happy making.

    Metallic pads may last longer but will also wear out the disc faster. Whether that costs more in the long run is out of scope for this reply.:whistling:
     
  3. rossage

    rossage iMTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    My M8000s came with metal pads. I replaced them with Shimano's JO2A resin pads.
    The metals work great, last longer, but can get noisy during hard efforts. Not Sram noisy but...
    JO2As are silent, and strong but don't last as long.
    I carry the metal pads as a spare set.
     
  4. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    Ceramic may be referring to the Caliper Pistons on your XT brakes.

    Metallic pads are noisy....but they last forever.

    Resins/Organic pads are much quieter and are a little more sticky....but they wear like chalk.

    Resins are also inexpensive, especially when you do the steel backer/non finned pads($6 per caliper).

    I run Resin pads on all our bikes. On the hardtails, I really didn’t find an advantage to the finned pads.
     
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  5. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Covina
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2012 Rockhopper 29

    You're right, I just re-read the Jenson listing and ceramic was for the piston. And like @rossage the pads were metallic.
     
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  6. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
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  7. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripmo, Ripley & Tranny
    Another one for resin.
     
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  8. scan

    scan Well-Known Member

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    +Resin. Things to consider, I'm not a downhiller, weigh a buck 50. Never used metallic but have heard everything people have said here.
     
  9. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Lebec, California
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Yeti ASR5c, SC Hightower
    Resin all the way! I keep several in stock in the garage and an extra pair in my Camelbak.
    Metal are noisy and eat up my rotors.
     
  10. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    Derek, you’ve ridden with me a few times and we both have XT brakes. Did my brakes seem noisy to you? I was wearing out resin pads like too fast so a few years ago I switched to metal pads and never looked back. They do last longer. Its these long steep downhill runs we have here that kill out pads fast.
     
  11. Voodoo Tom

    Voodoo Tom MTB Addict

    Location:
    Castaic
    Name:
    Tom
    Current Bike:
    Pick one, got a few
    Resin resin and more resin. I've never had luck with the metal pads, they stop good but make racket under heavy use. When I built up my hightower the new XT brakes came with metal pads and I was bound and determined to try and use em up. Then along came trail 120 which is a brake burner deluxe. About 1/3 of the way down I thought I was gonna go deaf and by the end of the ride the rotors were shot. I knew better and had extra resins hanging on the wall but thought I could sneak one more ride out of em.
     
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  12. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    It's ridng your brakes that wears out the pads on those long steep downhill runs. :p:D
     
  13. Diytypeofguy

    Diytypeofguy Member

    Location:
    Rancho Cucamonga
    Name:
    Henry Sanchez
    Current Bike:
    XC
    I run resin in the front and metallic in rear. I weigh 230 and I went through the resin in the rear too fast.
     
  14. Redman

    Redman Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cypress, Ca
    Name:
    Kevin
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Nomad CC 27.5
    resin front and back.

    metallics seem to fade on long DH"s
     
  15. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    Just how much faster than 35pmh (on dirt) do I have to go before you stop saying that?! :eek:
     
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  16. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    I am probably the lone non Shimano brake user and my Magura’s came with organic pads and work very well. No noises of any kind.
     
  17. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS

    Nah, we have Magura Gustav DH on the tandem, and I have been quite happy with my Guides.....so far.
     
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  18. Obsidian

    Obsidian Member

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    2017 Intense Tracer
    I have never tried resin. Always metallic. I am happy with them, and they only rarely make noise if you do not bed them in properly.
     
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  19. Ebruner

    Ebruner Well-Known Member

    Name:
    Erik Bruner
    Current Bike:
    SC Hightower, Kona Hei Hei
    For me resin pads on my xc bike and metallic on my hightower. The resins work fine too on my big bike on everything but park days. I can go through a set of resin pads in a single day at N* or mammoth. The metallics are noisy, especially when they get dusty... but I need the fade resistance of the metallic pads. Even with 200mm rotors front and back, I can melt down a set of resin pads on a full mid mountain to the bottom run at mammoth if I run it non-stop.
     
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  20. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    La Verne, CA
    Name:
    Dennis (AKA Dio)
    Current Bike:
    2013 Trek Slash 9 (26er)
    hell ya! Get rad baby!
     
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  21. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
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  22. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    LOL, that's what I like about you.

    BTW, Relive says I hit 36.0mph blasting down the mountain yesterday. I can only hope that this holds some merit... :laugh:
     
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  23. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Only 36???
     
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  24. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    Like you've ever gone faster (on dirt). :p
     
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  25. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    It'll do...
    The first one is dirt and the second one is from the Tehachapi Gran Fondo last month.
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  26. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    I bet you could beat your dirt speed record by dropping down the Kamikazee run.
     
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  27. Grego

    Grego Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    joe
    Current Bike:
    WFO9
    Metallic on the inside, resin on the outside.
     
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  28. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    I didn't see that coming. Sounds totally Punk.
     
  29. MrGreedom

    MrGreedom Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Los Angeles
    Name:
    Ryan
    Current Bike:
    BH Lynx6
    Expound upon this rational please.
     
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  30. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    I don't actually know... :oops: I get my pads from my mechanic. He puts 'em on and bleeds 'em for me for a six pack plus the steeply discounted price of the pads. Whatever the XT (MT8000s) came with, probably. They don't make much noise - maybe a little when wet or when hot. I think I go through a set about every 6-8 months. I carry a spare pair with me in my pack, but I don't know what material they are either. :confused: I do know how to change them, so I got that going for me...which is nice.

    I have heard of the one metallic and one resin on each end of the bike. Not sure the theory on that, but I know people do it. (Shrugging emoji)