Meadows..the saga continues

Discussion in 'Trail Maintenance' started by kioti, Jan 28, 2017.


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  1. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    Lopes

    Oops got beat to it by @herzalot

     
  2. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    I'd say ADA compliant, but those ramps look really steep for wheelchairs. And I can't wait until the rocks get scattered around (it looks like they're just sitting on concrete). Or maybe they'll be used as cobbles..?

    I liked how it used to be. Natural, fun to ride, with a built-in HAB for mortals.. just needed a little maintenance once in awhile. Oh well.
     
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  3. MolarM

    MolarM Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Mike
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz 5010
    Thx Herzalot and Bvader, you guys rock! That was pretty quick!

    The situation is pathetic
     
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  4. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    The one with all the spectators was older. Just a routine maneuver for the lad!
     
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  5. Oaken

    Oaken Well-Known Member

    Location:
    OC
    Name:
    CeeJay
    First thing I thought of. Haven't they read about what happened years ago in Big Bear?
    The way that slab is positioned on the hill I imagine it's going to get undercut with the first good rain.
     
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  6. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    How much did that cost??????

    (Versus two times per year of throwing some dirt around)

    Problem solvers in search of problems to solve and playing with money that they did not have to earn. (!!!!!!)

    You know that leg and reflex warm up that you take before you drop Mentally - gone forever.

    I am just going to stop typing right now to ensure that my immaturity does not surface. This is sickening.
     
  7. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    They bulldozed Coyote Hump and installed wood and dirt stairs and I did nothing.

    They dug out a ride around on Stair Steps and I did nothing.

    They ripped out the bedrock of TnA and built a ride around and I did nothing.

    They poured concrete on and built concrete stairs over the meadows transition and I did nothing.

    .... (5 years later)....

    Now I can ride my Lark on every trail, use the recharging station at the top of Willow so that I am never out of juice and REALLY enjoy the park and see lots of birds!
     
  8. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Well, the good news is that you did not do nothing. You and others have logged in as assertively as possible, without blowing an opportunity. The Stairway to Meadows was the City of Laguna Beach, the Coyote Hump was OC Parks, the T and A bulldozing was LCF and the Stair Steps P-Line was also LCF. We now have IMTB riders on OC Parks advisory board and LCF trails committee, for what it's worth. The City of Laguna is straight up crazy, so no chance of influence there. But luckily, they are not inclined to do much else regarding trails - I hope.
     
  9. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Man, this sounds grim. We're down to reminiscing about the old days when this or that trail feature existed? In some locales, land managers are approving and building more bike-specific trails. My bro in Conifer is enjoying a whole network of new trails (that connect to the CT), and more are being built in the area right now. Other parts of the country, ditto.

    How did Laguna ever get to be such an epicenter of SoCal riding? Power to you all for fighting the good fight, but I'm writing off AW/LCWP. I'm glad I rode that area a bunch, including some fun trails that no longer exist, and I'm literally afraid to go back and find what's (not) there now.
     
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  10. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Thanks for the 411 @herzalot ! Seeing that bit of handiwork was a tough start to the week. Concrete stairs... and a ramp. Wow, just WOW. First world problem, no doubt.
     
  11. shawndoh

    shawndoh Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lake Forest
    Name:
    shawn
    Current Bike:
    I ride all the bikes!
    Anybody know what time they start work (construction) in the morning?
     
  12. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    Because it is Laguna Beach and the NIMBY people that live right there....wouldn't surprise me if it was 8:00.

    Most likely 7:00 though.
     
  13. SingleTrackJB

    SingleTrackJB Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Newport Beach
    Name:
    SingleTrackRider
    There is LCF trails forum to be held on April 24th, 5.30 pm, Susi Q Community Center, 380 3rd street, laguna beach

    I just got their email about this. Unfort i am travelling that day , otherwise would attend

    For me it all boils down to proper signing. If it was deemed risky, then at the start of the trail it can be signed as such.

    I liked the connector a lot.
     
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  14. konakc

    konakc iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    kc
    Hey Shawn!
    I tried to sneak thru about 9am on a Monday.. they stopped me cold...very nice about it though..

    Counting Coup was carnage... I DNF a lot earlier than you... mud city = snapped derail hanger....
    KC!
    see you at over the hump...
     
  15. shawndoh

    shawndoh Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Lake Forest
    Name:
    shawn
    Current Bike:
    I ride all the bikes!
    10-4. Wondering if late afternoon is a better idea.

     
  16. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    I have a pretrial conference in DT LA in the afternoon, but I am going to try to make it.
     
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  17. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I cannot attend as I have a school function that evening.
     
  18. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    laguna beach
    Name:
    gary fishman
    Current Bike:
    2018 banshee rune
    I get what you're saying, but epicenter or not, for those of us who live close to the Laguna/aliso parks we don't want to write off our backyard trails, and there's (perhaps futilely) hoping we can show them public support for the good mtb trails so they will continue to exist in a challenging form.
    I will attend the meeting, I'm not much of a public speaker though.
     
  19. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Good on you for putting your mouth where your money is, Gary (et al.).
     
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  20. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    laguna beach
    Name:
    gary fishman
    Current Bike:
    2018 banshee rune
    What money? :)
     
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  21. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    I'd tweak that a bit and say, "Good on you for standing up for what you love, Gary."

    And the same goes for Chris, Tim, Craig and Matt.
     
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  22. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    laguna beach
    Name:
    gary fishman
    Current Bike:
    2018 banshee rune
    Well I could hardly not go to the meeting, given that I work a block away and get off at 530
     
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  23. MattB

    MattB Member

    Name:
    Matt B
    I just lined up the childcare, so I'll be there!
     
  24. MattB

    MattB Member

    Name:
    Matt B
    Reminder ... For anyone interested in attending, the LCF trails forum is this evening. I'll be there, and look forward to seeing anyone else who can make it.
     
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