Kona Honzo ESD

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  1. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Chimpanzee? Gorilla? Nah, more like Spider Monkey. :D
     
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  2. rossage

    rossage iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    71" height
    73" wingspan

    Oo oo oo ah ah ah ah!
     
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  3. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Measure it and see, flipper boy. :p
     
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  4. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Ape Index 1: 1.029
    Ape Index 2: +2"

    span is 70"
    height is 68" when I get out of bed in the morning but it was actually 67.25" just now (after lifting 100s of pounds of weight on a work day.)
     
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  5. redwoods

    redwoods Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Rialto Heights, CA
    Name:
    Patrick
    Current Bike:
    Ridin' heavy
    Hardtail Party recently reviewed it. Looks very interesting.

     
  6. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    I want.
     
  7. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    You certainly don't need another SS.
     
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  8. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    He doesn't have a SS like that. :geek: And he said want.
     
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  9. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    It's not a matter of need.
     
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  10. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    It looks like Kona isn't the only one to see the marketability of the extremely slack hardtail on this side of the pond...

    No adjustable dropouts on this one, though...

    p5pb19240202.jpg
     
  11. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
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    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    Lookit those tiny seat stays! How cute!
     
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  12. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    What model is that? San Quentin
     
  13. scottay

    scottay Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gods Country
    Name:
    Scottay
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    Looks Flexy..

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  14. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    No deal!!!!!!! :stop: Did someone else sign into your account???

    It seems overall, in the ongoing trickle of new and revised hardtails, the versatility of a sliding or swinging dropout is expendable for a lower retail price. Below I'll elaborate on my regrets for paying more for sliders:










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  15. Dirtrider....

    Dirtrider.... Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo, CA
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley V4
    i saw that too... isn't the seat angle 79degrees if i read the specs correctly... wonder when they'll get to 80+ seat tube angles...
     
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  16. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

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    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    Those seat stays should add at least 10mm of travel.
     
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  17. scottay

    scottay Well-Known Member

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    Scottay
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    Seat tube angle are "virtual" It can change depending on who does the measuring.
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  18. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    This seems like a pretty straight seat tube to the bottom bracket though...
     
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  19. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    That is the El Roy... 63 degree head angle and steel... The San Quentin looks to be aluminum and less aggressive on the geometry.
     
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  20. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    :Roflmao

    I'm going to catch some flack for this one... But in my thinking, if another hardtail comes into the garage, one will be left with shifty bits. If it's the Honzo, I'll transfer everything from the Hightower (150 fork, 30mm wheels, dropper, drivetrain).

    I'm just a little torn in my thinking process right now, and I need to clear some room anyway... I have two slots on the hanging rack that I'm looking to open up.
     
  21. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    I'll catch even more flack. If I put a HT in my garage it will be with shifty bits, a 100mm fork and weigh around 20 lbs.
     
  22. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    @Voodoo Tom and I were talking about this (kinda...) yesterday. He was on the Pivot with skinny bald tires, which is almost identical in geometry and setup to the aluminum Highball I used to have. I love my hardtails, but I just couldn't go back to that level of body abuse.

    I had to take Aleve the other night after piloting the Chameleon down the front range. :laugh:
     
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  23. Voodoo Tom

    Voodoo Tom MTB Addict

    Location:
    Castaic
    Name:
    Tom Kokkinakis
    Current Bike:
    Mango one, black one, Ti one
    Yeah I’ve been thinking it’s time for a more forgiving modern geometry hardtail with real tires before I kill myself on the Les...:Roflmao I had a blast chasing you down McGill yesterday. I know the trail and you didn’t so I should’ve been able to keep up easier. You got out about 5-10 seconds in front of me and for the life of me (& near death numerous times) I couldn’t catch you. I was taking quite the beating and you were making it look easy. Methinks you have upped your game a bit though riding in the Gabes all the time...:thumbsup:
     
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  24. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    I know a guy who is selling a frame that matches that description... :whistling:
     
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  25. rossage

    rossage iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    Gotta get loose. Wrists, elbows, shoulders, ankles knees, and hips. Built in suspension.
    Spine? That's just a stick up my ass that my head's attached to.
    One of the reasons I got back into hardtailing was my spine. Specifically, my lower back. No matter what kind of suspension, locked out or not, I would always end up with a stiff lower back after the ride.
    I noticed it didn't happen when I rode my hardtail. But other stuff hurt. Like my hands, arms, shoulders, etc.
    I had to learn to be loose.
    Absorb obscene boulder hits with D3O-like biceps and quads. Holding the grips ever so slightly loose, and unclenching my jaw. Rarely spending time in the saddle on most downhills.
    That's how you find the flow. When the bike is moving underneath you, when you compress together in the g-out, when your hips steer, and your tongue sticks out and you're smiling.
    :thumbsup:
     
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  26. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    It was my kidneys that took the abuse when I rode a hardtail. I used to ride a certain trail at speed that beat the :poop: out of me. Like the Lauf I would ride a lightweight HT on fire roads and relatively buff ST but with more climbing and descending involved. I think 29×2.25s would take a little sting out of the rougher stuff.
     
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  27. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I agree. Definitely more shreddage. It’s the Sausage. He’s contagious!
     
  28. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    Nice to hear the rest of your body finally caught up to your sphincter.
     
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  29. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

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    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.

    Great.... I’m an uptight middle aged white guy with no rhythm. :cautious:
     
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  30. scottay

    scottay Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gods Country
    Name:
    Scottay
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    Thats what' s on my DV9 , Ikons I think. Go carbon or Ti, Alu is too harsh. Steel is too heavy.
    .
     
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