Joplin

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  1. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

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    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
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    My 2013 Trek Slash came with a 1st (or maybe 2nd) generation Reverb stealth that was ridden often and worked great for 3 years via an annual bleed prior to requiring overhaul service. In 2016 the internals were updated, and it was rebuilt again 6 months ago before getting shelved. I would not consider it faulty if it weren’t for the reviews here.
     
  2. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Chris
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    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Just you, so far!
     
  3. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

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    Just waiting for the date/time:whistling:
     
  4. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    I’m pretty sure I’m going to be the straggler on this ride. I have my doubts as to whether I’ll even make it to the peak.

    Anyone up for a shuttle to 4 corners? :)
     
  5. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    A shuttle is only possible if the gate is open. We have seen years that it has stayed closed for months...
     
  6. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    I think "The Proposed Shuttle" is Climbing MS then shuttle back to MS after from Cooks unless I am missing something...
     
  7. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    If I’m in, I could probably help with that last part...
     
  8. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Chris
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    Yes - not really a shuttle in the typical mountain bike parlance. Just a different starting and ending point. Set a vehicle at Cooks. Drive to Silverado. Start riding there. End at Cook's. Drive to retrieve vehicle from Silverado.
     
  9. konakc

    konakc iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    kc
    I would not consider joplin an intermediate ride...
    Let's not sand bag..don't want anyone to get in over their heads...
    DDD.. I ain't bringing no stinking lights!
     
  10. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Name:
    Chris
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    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I would not plan on a side trip to the peak on this ride, if I were you. You will have your hands full with the elevation we will be gaining, and the difficulty of the descent. I mean that with full respect, but eyes wide open. As @konakc said, this is not an intermediate ride. Some of the experts on this site like to downplay the difficulty.
     
  11. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    ^^^^^^This^^^^^^ it is a trail that can bite you.


    And yes, skip the Peak this time around. Save that for another day.....and that is coming from an endurance rider.
     
  12. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Which sandbagging wiseass said it was intermediate?
     
  13. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    I was only kidding about this part. Mostly.
     
  14. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    This is my understanding of the situation. And I’m all in on this arrangement.
     
  15. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    No problem. I can save THE peak for another day.
     
  16. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I got a GO for next Saturday 1/11, 1:00pm roll time from cook’s corner. If ya’ll can join me, great. However, I’m concerned about the condition of Joplin prior to maintenance day. Larissa C is the only Strava rider through there in 2020, and she rode it in 38 minutes (should take 15-20). I have a message out to her to see about conditions and will report back.

    @Ocpop , I’m slow too. Some of the A-team is either passing on this ride or treating it like an escort for 1st timers/slouches. Come out as you are, no worries.

    @konakc , feel free to roll ahead, or you can borrow one of my lights. This goes for everyone who wants to ride the PM shift. I always pack lights for these backcountry rides, and it might take me twice as long as you to do the loop. I haven’t been able to prepare like for Wildhorse, but I’m doing it because I have an opportunity to ride.

    I’m downplaying the difficulty to help improve your MTB existentialism. A good Froind did the same for me on Yaeger, and I appreciated it in retrospect because I didn’t psych myself out of the ride. I rode Joplin once in 2014 and nothing stands out as extreme (the way Yeager has burned drop-ins into my consciousness). Don’t decline because you’re unable to clean technical sections. You can walk. Besides, you might not get a chance to ride the rest of the month, and then where would you be?
     
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  17. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
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    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
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    I can’t, so if I have legs, I’m bagging it. I envy your option to postpone.
     
  18. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

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    1:56 in a rocking chair, and BANG ON!!!
     
  19. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

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    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    It’s a shuttle once an engine starts. :geek: Sounding like lots of fodder for ridicule coming up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D:thumbsup::speechless:
     
  20. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Can't do this Saturday (1/11). Sorry. Brother's in town. He rides, but can't do that ride.
     
  21. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
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    Only from those who are convinced they are superior to others.
     
  22. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    :)

    A heaping tablespoon of LTFU with your brekky will make a better day. Happy Sunday!

    I’m not even there, not a fuckng bike trail an hour from here, couldn’t ride Joplin if I wanted to, so you all win... :geek:
     
  23. Redman

    Redman iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Henderson, Nv
    Name:
    Kevin
    Current Bike:
    SC OG Hightower 29'r
    1-11-2020 ride date.... I’m out. I’ll be in Utah.
     
  24. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

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    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    This guy...The Trailhead invite stated “advanced” in reference to the trail, and I invited all “intermediate or above” riders to participate because we’re all intermediate for the most part, and why be lame and stay within our limits?

    Socialists for mediocrity, and we’d never have made it to the moon or beyond the Floop or a fire road.
     
  25. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Ah! :):thumbsup:

    As we know, part of difficulty is the penalty for failure along with the technical difficulty. Some sports have ratings for each, but not MTB. While Joplin might require advanced skills to clean, the penalty for failure is mostly very low. Dismount when needed like 90% of Joplin riders and have challenging intermediate fun. Even walking, two miles to Old Camp goes quickly. How about a rating for exposure or intimidation? Joplin would rank high...I pucker dropping in every time, but after the first couple of turns and drops you get dialed.

    Sad to miss the ride on this OC classic.
     
  26. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    Although Saturday is not a good day for riding for me, I’m going to make it work. After all, I’m partially responsible for getting this endeavor off the ground.

    I’m going to shuttle and park as close to the gate as possible to give myself the best chance to summit. Riding in the dark part makes me nervous, as I’ve never done that before, but I’m game. If I’m not feeling it, I will just descend back on MS.

    let’s do this!
     
  27. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Once you drop into Joplin, there is no option to descend back on MS. There is substantial climbing out of Old Camp and some climbing on Santiago Truck Trail - especially if you don't do the Luge. If your legs can handle 4000-5000' of climbing, you should be OK from that standpoint.
     
  28. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I respect that you offered your commitment, so I won’t hold any grudges if you are unable to make this ride. Please don’t go too far out of your way to make this ride. Don’t bail because of fear of the ride, but feel free to bail if you must work or babysit or care for someone, etc.

    I’ll bring lights if you need to borrow. Then you can consider your illumination options when it comes time for you to purchase. Unlikely we’ll need them, but just in case.

    I am not in great shape, so don’t fret about the pace.

    I’m just as responsible as you for this excursion, so we’ll stay together the entire ride upon our rendezvous. Just don’t blame me if you perish, and I obviously won’t blame you if I die out there.

    Now that we got that out of the way, I encourage you to start at Cook’s corner with me and take your chances with the loop. Our best chance of success is keeping a comfortable pace. A comfortable pace can climb 10k in a single endeavor. Bring food and plenty of water. What a riot!
     
  29. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    I realize this. I feel if I bonk before the Joplin drop, I can bail and come down on MS.

    Most I’ve climbed in a single day is less then 2500’. But I feel if the pace is slow enough, I can climb a lot more.
     
  30. Ocpop

    Ocpop Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Paul K
    Current Bike:
    Pivot trail
    As you know, I’m a noob. I’m pretty fit but I’m not like some of the high volume riders here by any stretch of the imagination. For all I know I can easily make the peak, but on the other hand , I might bonk halfway up the hill. So, with this uncertainty, I’d really like to give myself the best chance possible by shuttling. I think that’s probably about 10 miles of riding that I’m saving before the climb. That’s substantial.
    Yes, I’ll borrow your lights if you got em.
     
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