Hubs - what to get

Discussion in 'Shop Talk' started by Runs with Scissors, Sep 6, 2018.

  1. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I have a Giant front wheel with a Giant-branded 15mm x 100mm hub. I want to make it a 12mm x 100mm hub, and such adapters do not seem to exist.

    I like the rim. It has stayed true and round through the last couple years no matter what. Sealed, no tape needed because no spoke holes. 28 hole. Looks like I can choose from a decent variety of hub manufacturers to get a 28-hole, 12x100 hub.

    Obviously I'd need someone to lace the existing rim to the new hub. 2 questions: Hub, which would be best bang for the buck and who near the Knotts Berry Farm area is best to put it together?
     
    Danmtchl and Faust29 like this.
  2. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley V3, Ibis Tranny
    I like DT Swiss hubs. The 350 is a good value.
     
    Oaken, Stkx66, levity and 3 others like this.
  3. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    Buy the hub, follow the directions online for lacing it up yourself, and then drop it off at a trusted LBS for truing, centering, and tensioning.
     
  4. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I freely admit I have neither the patience nor the desire to do that. I'll gladly pay someone else.
     
    herzalot, Faust29, Danmtchl and 2 others like this.
  5. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    That's understandable but it actually not hard to do.

    I am enjoying my Hope Pro4 hubs, BTW.
     
  6. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Agreed. The hub I have may be Giant on the outside, but it's DT Swiss on the inside. Seems pretty much bulletproof. :thumbsup:

    I'm leaning in that direction but before I do I wanted the input of those who know. :geek: This is a great place to find those who know. ;)
     
  7. levity

    levity Member

    Location:
    Irvine
    Name:
    Larry
    Current Bike:
    Stumpies (+/- e)
  8. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    I use Bitex hubs and have so for the last few years. Parts are cheap and readily available through J&B or The Bike Hub Store. I know there will be naysayers but these are the best hubs I have owned since my Kings.

    www.bikehubstore.com/product-p/bx201fg.htm
     
  9. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Mikie, Faust29 and Danmtchl like this.
  10. levity

    levity Member

    Location:
    Irvine
    Name:
    Larry
    Current Bike:
    Stumpies (+/- e)
    Oh well, then I recommend DT 350 (or 240 if you’re a weight weenie). I run DT 350 centerlock hubs on all of my bikes, F &R, love them.
     
    Oaken, Mikie, Danmtchl and 2 others like this.
  11. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    Another vote for DT Swiss... I have 350s on the Lizard, and Spline 1s (240 Internals) on the Highball. I have a collection of adapters, and they have been run as QR, 9mm Thru bolt, 15mm, and now one is even running a boostinator to fit the new fork. I love the adaptability.

    As far as reliability, they are some of the best. And dirt simple to take apart. No tools needed...

    @Runs with Scissors - Your hub on the Giant may be one of the lower end DT Swiss hubs with the pawl system. If you buy a 350, it's a huge upgrade to the ratchet system. :inlove:
     
    Oaken, Mikie, levity and 2 others like this.
  12. AKAKTM

    AKAKTM Member

    Name:
    Tony A
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripmo
    Might check and see if DT adapters will work with your existing hub. I had a set of Giant hubs that accepted DT adapters. If not, you can't go wrong with DT 350 hubs.
     
    Mikie, levity, Danmtchl and 3 others like this.
  13. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    But it's a front wheel...no advantage for the ratchet that I can think of. :laugh:
     
    Mikie, scottay, Danmtchl and 2 others like this.
  14. Faust29

    Faust29 iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Highball C
    D'Oh!

    But if you're going to buy one... :whistling:
     
  15. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Yep, tried that. No joy.
     
    Mikie and Danmtchl like this.
  16. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    Front hubs don't matter.....don't spend a lot of money.....they are essentially a shell and 2 bearings. DT 350's are available in 28h and adaptable to just about anything.

    The Bitex mentioned above might be a nice alternate.

    I'd also usually suggest Hope, but not sure they are available in 28h.
     
    tick, Mikie, Danmtchl and 1 other person like this.
  17. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    Yep, many/most/all the 15mm hubs have 21mm OD caps, while the 12mm hubs have 19mm OD caps. Even if you get a sleeve to run a 12mm thru-axle in the hub, the end caps probably won't fit. If your hub is not convertible, then you're stuck needing a new one.

    Anywho, another vote for DT Swiss 350. They sell the 12mm hubs, which are the same hubs as the 15mm ones but with different end caps.
    This is the best deal on them: https://r2-bike.com/DT-SWISS-Hub-front-350-Disc-Center-Lock-Road-12x-100-mm-Thru-Axle Shipping is 25 euros. Works out well if you buy some cheap Schwalbes from them at the same time. You can convert back to 15mm and use on another bike in the future. Or buy the cheaper and easier to find 15mm hubs, and buy the 12mm caps and convert them.
     
    Mikie, levity, pperrelle and 3 others like this.
  18. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    So the consensus seems to be DT Swiss 350...now it comes down finding someone to put them together.
     
    Mikie, pperrelle, Danmtchl and 2 others like this.
  19. Sidewalk

    Sidewalk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Unknown
    Name:
    Josh
    Current Bike:
    N+1
    DT is kind of the go to.

    But at the time my budget was even tighter than that and I went with a Sram 900. It is pretty damn good. I've put some abusive miles on it. Then again, that's the rear, I haven't built up the front yet...

    But like Jason says, front hub doesn't matter much. I guess only if you want to be able to adapt it for different bikes (where DT shines). I don't plan to do that very often, most of my wheels will stay with what ever frame their built for, personally. Except perhaps in the future a VERY nice set of carbons, besides my current ones.
     
  20. rossage

    rossage iMTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    My rear hubs are DT 240/350 and my front hubs are a mix of Roval and an oddball Origin8-a J&B house brand.
    The Origin8 is every bit as durable, and adaptable, as the more expensive Roval.
    Much cheaper too.
     
    Cyclotourist, Mikie, Danmtchl and 3 others like this.
  21. Ebruner

    Ebruner Well-Known Member

    Name:
    Erik Bruner
    Current Bike:
    SC Hightower, Kona Hei Hei
    Agreed on all accounts, front hubs dont' matter much. That being said, I really like dt350 hubs because of the plethora of end caps and even boost conversion options. I've run hopes and bitex in the past with great success. The sram 900s as sidewalk mentioned are sleepers. They truly are great hubs, although I've seen a few friends go through bearings in front on them in a shorter time frame then I'm used to (maybe half)... which doesn't really matter much because the bearings are cheap and easy to replace.
     
    Cyclotourist, Mikie, Danmtchl and 3 others like this.
  22. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    Those Orgin8 hubs are Bitex hubs rebranded for J&B. That is why I like them so much. Parts are available and they have adapters like DT Swiss.
     
  23. tick

    tick Member

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    Tick
    Current Bike:
    Process 111
    If boost convertibility is a factor, don’t take the shop guy’s word for it, confirm it on your own. At least with rear dt350 from a couple years ago, boost conversion was no-go. Learned that the hard way.

    Good hubs but not convertible to boost.
     
  24. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I don't have boost.
     
    Danmtchl and Cyclotourist like this.
  25. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    3D blueprint the 21mm OD end caps and the 19mm OD end caps and have a machine shop make a set of 12mm adapters for your Giant hub.
     
    Danmtchl and Cyclotourist like this.
  26. Stkx66

    Stkx66 Member

    Location:
    Southern California
    Name:
    Steve Boudreaux
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Bronson C
    I really like the wheelset in DT 350 that came with the Hightower( 27.5 Plus). I picked up the Santa Cruz Reserve 30's with DT 350's shortly after ( 29 r ). The next hubs/ wheelset I'm going to buy is Onyx hubs laced to Nobl rims. I want quiet and Onyx hubs will do that. Weight penalty with Onyx is OK with me.
     
  27. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    The new XTR M9011 series rear hub rolls completely silent.

    Personally, I like LOUD freewheels. They alert those around me and I sometimes I don't even have to use my bell.
     
    Danmtchl, Sidewalk and Cyclotourist like this.
  28. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    So, DT Swiss wheels seem to be on the affordable side....but I know nothing about them. Obviously they'd include DT Swiss hubs. :rolleyes: I'm about to conclude that taping rims for the gravel bike probably won't be an issue....but it may be, since I despise having to tape rims... so can anyone speak to DT Swiss wheels' reliability, value, ability to hold true & round, etc.

    But they obviously think I'm the next best thing to sliced bread....

    upload_2018-9-9_16-45-55.png
     
    Danmtchl and Cyclotourist like this.
  29. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    I think there's no way around it, you have to get them now!
     
    Danmtchl likes this.
  30. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Addict

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I am a genius. :cool::laugh:

    I was trying to convert the mtb wheel referenced at the top of this thread from 15x100 to 12x100. Everyone told me it couldn't be done. LBS even tried but what they ordered didn't work.

    So after perusing the DT Swiss website, I measured the axle diameter. Then I ordered the end caps. They came in today. They work. Rode it around the block, all is good. Test run on the FLoop tomorrow. :thumbsup: Eventually I'll need to get a good, lighter rear wheel but at least I wont have to buy a set.

    20180910_181843.jpg
     
    Sidewalk, Danmtchl, UPSed and 3 others like this.
Loading...