Flyin' Brian joins Ellsworth!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Redman, Jan 8, 2017.

  1. Redman

    Redman Well-Known Member

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  2. riiz

    riiz Member

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    Yup, Sh!t-head Tony is still at the helm, he got a boatload of investment money and re-purchased his company back last summer. There is another thread about it somewhere on imbtrails.
     
  3. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Rockstah

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    Dennis (AKA Dio)
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    Why Tony so poopie?
     
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  4. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    I have stories - and they are not good. I won't buy a bike from them as long as he is involved, no matter how good the bikes are.
     
  5. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

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    Ehhhhh !?!? :speechless:
     
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  6. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Rockstah

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    Yea, ehhhhh!?!?:eek:
     
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  7. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    :speechless:
     
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  8. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

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    Dustan Baker
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    I will never buy an intense bike ever, or anything Crank bros. No matter how good any of the bikes and gear are.
     
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  9. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

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    Dustan Baker
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    Foes Mixer Trail
    100% super stoked Brian is on Ellsworth. Can't wait to see what he does
     
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  10. knucklebuster

    knucklebuster Well-Known Member

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    Pre-Super Bowl
    Demo - Feb 4

    Trabuco, CA

    Meet Brian Lopes and test ride an Ellsworth
    19152 E Santiago Canyon Rd, Trabuco, CA 92679 9:00am-2:00pm

    (Cooks-Luge loops)
     
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  11. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Chris
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    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    AH must've done you wrong...
     
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  12. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

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    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    So Brian Lopes, on Ellsworth, just pulled a 3rd place in Pro class enduro at the mammoth kamikaze games. It's 2017 and Brian is 46 years old. If that does not prove he's still got gas in the tank to help grow the Ellsworth brand I don't know what it will take.

    After 5 stages, which included 1 win, and also a crash on another stage, he finished 11 seconds back from winner Marco Osborne who is 20 years younger. It was a total of 37minutes of racing. Brutal.

    http://georesults.racemine.com/Team...aze-Bike-Games-Expert-Pro-Open-Enduro/results
     
  13. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Lopes is still relevant. That's cool. He is a fierce competitor and a talented rider.
     
  14. kazlx

    kazlx Member

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    Joe
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    It won't help Ellsworth. They have done enough damage to themselves. Even when they changed hands, whoever bought that company must have no clue. You'd be better off starting something from scratch than trying to revive the rep they have.

    I'm in the Herzalot camp and wouldn't touch anything they do. They are right up there with Crank Bros to me in the 'never purchase anything' catergory.
     
  15. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

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    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    What's the tl;dr history with the two brands you mention? I'm not up on industry insider stuff.
     
  16. kazlx

    kazlx Member

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    Name:
    Joe
    Current Bike:
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    Ellsworth just built Sh!t bikes. Literally everyone I knew that purchased their bikes had problems with them, alignment, cracking etc. That wasn't the be-all, end-all, it was the douche attitude you would get getting warranties denied, etc. after the fact. Just quite frankly the worst possible customer service on bikes that pretty much sucked in the first place.

    Cranks Bros is similar that I have first hand experience with. Their customer service was ok, but all the products I bought from them were just garbage. Literal waste of money. The only thing I would consider would be their clipless pedals, but I'd rather just support another company. Even now, nothing I ever see them do is innovative or even looks like a good idea. They have a few multi-tools that would be hard to F up, but, that comes back to I'd rather just buy Lezyne or something else...
     
  17. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

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    SC Chameleon SS

    CB is simple.....they don't invest in R&D....you buy the product, and you become their R&D. The components they make with moving parts(wheels, pedals, dropper) have a very high fail rate. The parts that are not moving(bars, rigid posts, stems) were ok.
     
  18. kazlx

    kazlx Member

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    Joe
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    Lol nailed it. Anything that required any basic product testing/engineering is just crap.
     
  19. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
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  20. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

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    Ladera Ranch
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    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    The bikes look very well done in person. I wish the new owner good luck
     
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  21. dustyyoungblood

    dustyyoungblood Well-Known Member

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    Ladera Ranch
    Name:
    Dustan Baker
    Current Bike:
    Foes Mixer Trail
    My CB hand pump does not even work. I hate them and the hipster Sh!t they make.
     
  22. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    The font Ellsworth often uses reminds me of tramp stamp/stomach tattoo style. I think the flames on the intense head tube badges looks lame too. Very 90’s, lifted truck on the way to Havasu like.
     
  23. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    That always turned me off from the Ellsworth brand. That and their rear suspension always looked archaic to me. Like the Intense badge though!
     
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  24. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    So the wheels on my wife’s bike I bought off of you are junk? Lol, just kidding... she won’t ride hard enough for it to matter and I think that I got a good deal on that bike.
     
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  25. kazlx

    kazlx Member

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    Joe
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  26. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    I really shouldn’t talk though, I ride a Niner which seems to be a laughingstock brand for many.
     
  27. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

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    Jim Jennings
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    ibis ripley
    I gotta wish Brian the best.. he's such an inspiration!

    I've talked to him a couple times, both times on the Luge and both when I was digging. The first time he cut me slack for the trail having a lot of brake bumps, "It's mountain biking, man!" And the 2nd he was rightfully bummed we were building a berm to keep riders from crashing into the failed gap jump/gully.

    I didn't see an option to save that jump (without a lot of work), and last winter's rains took it out of the casual bunny-hop mode. But it did hold up for at least ten years, and maybe it'll be rebuilt some day.

    Don't know anything about Ellsworth's history, but unless they're building an eBike..
     
  28. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

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    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS

    Actually those are the R&D wheels. You have 1 of 2 sets. You will never see another set like that. Consider them.....custom. The 2 times I took them in, the tech didn't even know what they were. I got them to test for CB.

    Like I said above, they shortcut the R&D and just deal with the blowback when stuff fails. I ride them harder than your wife or even my wife for that matter, and they held up fine. They are the Generation 2 carbon wheels. I saw how flexy the Gen 1 Carbons were....now that was scary.

    As hard as they were ridden, it was only the axle that failed....otherwise the front had zero issues. But the axle issue may have been a product of me putting them on the SS.

    I reported back that they needed heavier spokes.... the 1.8 were too light for heavier riders. Also that they needed to increase the spoke tension.

    You are good to go.
     
  29. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

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    Orange
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    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS
    Now see, I have one of the original pumps, and it works great. Have pulled it apart a few times to clean and lube it. No complaints there or with the multi tools.
     
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  30. Cornholio

    Cornholio Well-Known Member

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    I was messing around, my wife couldn't break a ritz cracker as a wheel. The Tallboy will last many years for her.
     
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