Drop the Jop

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  1. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Ride Name: Drop the Jop
    When: Monday Morning, January 2
    Time: 7 or 8 ish
    Where: J-Zilla's hood, Cleveland Nat'l Forest
    Ride Description or Details:
    Climb Maple Springs, drop motorway, climb Maple Springs again to the Joplin, drop it like it's hot!
    ~~~~~ Optional Details ~~~~~
    Meet Location: Peltzer Pines Xmas tree farm
    Skill Level: Intermediate, Advanced, Storm Trooper
    Ride Pace: Moderate Pace
    Type of Ride: Loop
    Rider Limit: No limit
    Anticipated Mileage: I haven't mapped it out. 30ish maybe
    Elevation Gain: I haven't plotted it out. 6k maybe
    Ride Duration: I have no clue. 4-5 hours, likely
    Previous Ride Reports: Lots by @mike and @faust and @Jzilla for the different segments, none for this loopdy loop.
    Possible Bail-Outs: Lots. At the end of the first lap, then a few during the second lap. Maybe we just do one lap. This is a STORM or SHINE ride... with possible route alterations if storm.
    Facilities: In Silverado, then none.
    Food/water suggestions: double bottle minimum. Can refill during second lap through Silverado.
    Option to Upload:
     
  2. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Don't have time to get the numbers completely dialed right now, will update over weekend. Just wanted to throw this out there. @mike? :)
     
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  3. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    Moderate pace...:laugh:
     
  4. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    Ask and you shall receive:

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  5. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    I could be down for this. Would be a great way to welcome in the New Year.
     
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  6. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Basically I received permission from the wife to go long and hard on Monday. So this seems like a good "rain or shine" route and I have been dying to do Joplin for quite some time. As to the pace, I am MOS DEF not in race fitness form. I am in "holy crap how can @Faust29 and @mtnbikej be dropping ne on their single speeds????" shape. Thus, moderate pace.
     
  7. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    The route above shows us descending back down Santiago Truck Trail instead of going down the Luge. More dirt, less pavement.
     
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  8. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    How did I know that @mtnbikej would drop a terrain map on this thread? So rad of you to take the time to do that J, really appreciated. I slightly under-calculated the miles and elevation. :) So I would probably want to start at 7.
     
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  9. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    This would be the same route, but dropping the Luge and take the road all the way back to the start:

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  10. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    2 Bottles may be a little light. There is no water available past about 1 mile into Silverado Canyon. Actually neither route has any water. You COULD stash some water at the bottom of Motorway. However that is still a stout 2nd loop on 2 bottles. 2 would be fine for the first loop MS/MW.....but I would prefer 3 on the back half.
     
  11. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Is there a spring at Maple Springs? ;) Because of the weather, I will be bringing a water back pack (for water and storing layers) and will have two bottles.
     
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  12. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    Yes, there is....but it's not what you think it is. It supposed to be cold, so perhaps a pack would be best.
     
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  13. HBkites

    HBkites Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Huntington Beach
    Name:
    Sharone
    Current Bike:
    Why S7, Revel Rascal, Spark RC
    I had done Maple to Motorway before (but never Joplin), why is the tree farm part of the loop (if you end up at the bottom of SST)?
     
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  14. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    It looks like you gotta start somewhere.

    From the Tree Farm up Silverado is a nice warm up before you get to Maple Springs.

    Kinda like asking......if you are going to do Counting Coup on your own, where would you park your car and start?

    Plus after 7500' of climbing, the last thing you wanna do is have to climb up Silverado Canyon.
     
  15. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    I am tentatively in for at least the first loop! I've been fighting the crud the entire time we were in Big Bear, so I don't want to overpromise... I was just starting to feel good on the bike again, so I'm hopeful!

    Jason had to point out the "spring" the first couple times we rode it... It's more of a wet dirt patch than an actual spring.

     
  16. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    I WANT to do this with you guys; I have Monday off. But I know I don't have 8,000 foot legs in me. Not at your guys moderate pace. That double loop would likely take me 7-9 hours :(

    Have the fun :)
     
  17. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Wow, that's one stylish way to bust a Joplin cherry! :thumbsup:

    I'd love to join you guys for the second loop. I'll get dropped off at MS and finish on Caddy. Faust gets first, I'll take swing shift. :cool:
     
  18. Luis

    Luis iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Sylmar
    Name:
    Luis
    Current Bike:
    La Diabla
    Is this whole ride a fire road extravaganza?
     
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  19. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    All the descents are singletrack. Luge, Motorway, Joplin are techy.
     
  20. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    Not if lower Joplin is involved! So tempted but I don't think I have 8k in me either. Plus 7:am in OC is a bit much...
     
  21. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    Do the first loop!
     
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  22. StrandLeper

    StrandLeper Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Timothy M. Ryan
    Current Bike:
    SC Bronson 1x/Pivot 429 1x xtr
    @Mikie -- I am bringing a very large number of my wife's Xmas cookies to share with mi amigos. So, there's that. :)
     
  23. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

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  24. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    So... Figure 3 hours for the group to finish Motorway which ends right at the start of the Maple Springs climb... And join for the second loop to Joplin! That would make it (roughly) 10:00.

    Edit: Tim would comfortably finish that loop faster than 3 hours, but as it's his first time on that end of the mountain range, there will be some "Oh, wow" moments with the views... :thumbsup:
     
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  25. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Hmmmmmm....

    Never done Joplin, believe it or not. I hear somebody once made a seatpost named after it, presumably for the need to drop the seat. ;) :cool:
     
  26. Luis

    Luis iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Sylmar
    Name:
    Luis
    Current Bike:
    La Diabla
    Come to my house. You sleep while I drive :)
     
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  27. Cougar

    Cougar Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Washington City, UT (near St. George)
    Name:
    Craig
    Current Bike:
    '14 Turner Burner
    No no no no, if I'm going to do one loop, I'll do the Joplin part, not the Motorway part.
     
  28. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    A respectful fyi:

    'Lower Joplin' is actually below Old Camp off the STT, starting just past the top of Cadillac and dropping to Rose Canyon. A super fun trail and coincidentally like a mellow Motorway. But OCTA decided the best way to mitigate their bus system on city streets was to shut outdoor enthusiasts out of the outdoors. So they bought land at the bottom of the trail and blocked legal egress.

    Middle Joplin is the key descent on this ride, from the North Main Divide down to Old Camp. And yeah, good place to drop your seat, er..saddle. You could even throw it away, but you might need it later.
     
  29. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    Which really bites... I can see it from my bedroom window and I've never ridden it! Having access to it would really open up some nice loops. :thumbsdown:
     
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  30. kioti

    kioti iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Current Bike:
    ibis ripley
    You can ride it without controversy by descending from the STT; then turning around and climbing back up it. It's as good a climb as it is a descent. Probably super pretty right now, too. If you choose to ride it this way, consider turning around at the big washout. Otherwise it gets a little H.A.Bikie. Oh, and watch out for hidden rocks in the brush.. there might be a couple foot-breakers.
     
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