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  1. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    It really is that simple. Lowercase the "L" and it becomes "do what you wish, unless your actions do physical harm to the person or property of another who does not consent to the act." How could we want anything other than that? (And this is what the constitution requires of our government.)

    When I was in high school (1976 - 1979) the herb was omnipresent and accepted. Heck, even smoking cigarettes was accepted - I have photographic proof in my yearbook. We survived. We did pretty well in life, too. The vast majority will grow out of it. The "social contract" is an attempt to require conformism, and that is not the reason this country was founded.

    It doesn't take a village. Really. Unless you want your children to give deference to the state in all things.
     
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  2. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Lots of incorrect assumptions about my line of reasoning there. But I will leave it alone - except to say that we do not need to defer to a "state" if we understand and practice our mutual obligations.
     
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  3. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I've still never heard a band I like more, particularly when considering the lyrics.
     
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  4. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    :)
    Agreed!
     
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  5. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Wow - you like New Model Army too? I did NOT expect that. :sneaky: :whistling:
     
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  6. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    You are a silly man. And I love you for it...
     
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  7. scottay

    scottay Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gods Country
    Name:
    Scottay
    .
    So California is gonna negotiate a contract and protect you when you are fired unfairly or get passed up for a promotion that went to a drinking buddy instead?

    Yeah, good luck with that!

    Wonder why all these places are getting sued for missed breaks and missed wages? California got your back, no worries!
    .
    I'm not talking about the $$ for politics. Just the job benefits of a union job.

    (members of management need not respond!) :)
    .
    .
     
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  8. Voodoo Tom

    Voodoo Tom MTB Addict

    Location:
    Castaic
    Name:
    Tom Kokkinakis
    Current Bike:
    Mango one, black one, Ti one
    Man I should’ve skipped the barbecue and just made some popcorn.
     
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  9. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Two wrongs don't make a right. But three rights can make a left!
     
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  10. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    I'm not management.

    I have worked in both union and non-union environments. From age 18 to 27 I was in the Navy. There ain't no union in the military, and thank (insert favored deity) for that. Did I put in some long hours? Heck yeah. I got paid a salary, and that was paid for performance, not hours.

    After that I worked at McDonnell Douglas in Long Beach. There was a union. Please note that McDonnell Douglas is no more. Mostly this is due to the union. You may not want to believe that, but I watched it happen.

    Now I work for a major southern California city. The recent Supreme Court decision dealt directly with the ability of public employee unions to require payment of agency fees. I object vociferously to paying the IAM any money at all, because I do not agree with their stances on anything. Until the SCOTUS ruling, they could take my money. Now they cannot. In my estimation this is a win for individual liberty.

    Please explain to me why they should have the right to take my money. I do not wish for them to represent me. I can do just fine without them.
     
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  11. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    Not trying to piss you off bud. I’m a hiring manager and hired over 1100 techs the last 3 years. The volume of people leaving Union shops is overwhelming. Everything you mentioned is why people are coming to NGC a non Union shop. Unions have plenty of corruption themselves, they protect worthless unproductive folks just as much as the valuable ones to collect Union Dues, and they can only negotiate what a company is willing to agree to. I have had plenty of schooling on Unions. Okay, I’m done, let’s ride bikes! Ha ha!:inlove::thumbsup:
     
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  12. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    Hey I bought two ”How To” mountain bike video’s.
    Fluid ride like a Pro, and Flow-Tonic

    Pretty good videos!
     
  13. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    Wouldn't it be easier to just go ride your bike?? o_O:eek::p
     
  14. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    Yes, but this could make me ride my bike .... better. :thumbsup:
     
  15. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    There is a beautiful tropical purple/pink clouded sunset happening right now.

    Drop whatever you are doing and go look out to the WSW right now!
     
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  16. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley
    Caught it:inlove:
     
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  17. scottay

    scottay Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Gods Country
    Name:
    Scottay
    .

    20180709_201918.jpg
     
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  18. tortoise

    tortoise Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cave Creek, AZ
    Name:
    Tom
    Two Wongs don't make a white...
     
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  19. doublewide

    doublewide iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    Mark
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Tallcan
    Adoption.
     
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  20. tortoise

    tortoise Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cave Creek, AZ
    Name:
    Tom
    :cautious:
     
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  21. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Specy Epic, Stumpu and Enduro
    That was funny right there.
     
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  22. tortoise

    tortoise Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Cave Creek, AZ
    Name:
    Tom
    :DHaha, my 2 kids are adopted.
     
  23. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Charles Cole, founder of Five Ten and badass climber, has passed on. Not old. Coronary/vascular-related seems the cause.

    What a force. Solo first ascents on El Cap and Half Dome, pioneered sticky rubber, master chess player, etc. He packed in enough achievement for multiple lives. RIP.
     
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  24. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    :inlove: @mountaingirl sara is already well over 1,000 posts. Although she officially joined December 30th 2017, she really did not start posting until May 13th.
    :mad:Why can all of you be more like her....huh!?!

    Congrats Sara! You have no life, just like us, ha ha! o_O:rolleyes:
     
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  25. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    NW Arkansas
    Name:
    Mikie Watson
    Current Bike:
    Ibis DV9 / SC Hightower
    Dude! Did you take that picture? That is awesome!
     
  26. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    She had a lot of catching up to do. :whistling:
     
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  27. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley
    LOL...thanks???
    You’ve ruined me you mtb nerds :Roflmao
    Thanks :thumbsup::inlove::inlove::inlove:
     
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  28. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley
    I hate to hear that...this is why we need to do what we love...as often as we can :thumbsup:
     
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  29. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    Giant XTC with pedals
    We exist only to serve. :whistling:
     
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  30. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    So Cal
    Name:
    Sara
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley
    Well in that case..I need some work done on my bike:Roflmao:Roflmao
     
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