Bear-Morton anti-shuttle, 9/XX/2020

Discussion in 'Rides That are 30 Plus Miles' started by mike, Aug 23, 2020.



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  1. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Basically start at BB Lake, over Skyline to SART, tag Morton Peak and return via roads/Clark's Grade. I'd like to do it next month, no date in mind presently but prefer a soonish weekday with a dark start.

    It'll be a full day at my pace with numerous judicious breaks. A lot of it will be new dirt for me. I rode BB once decades ago, and have done SART. I don't know every possible water resupply, but I will have a Steripen. Don't feel bad if you can't swing it. I like riding solo and there will be more of this.


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    https://www.trailforks.com/ridelog/planner/view/149457/

    (The route was not drawn perfectly in Planner, but you get the idea.)
     
  2. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    Moxie Mx3 & A Lizard SS
  3. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    Trek FEX
  4. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    Clark's Grade at mile 55. :eek:

    7 miles/3300'

    "Steep dirt road gets you up to the Skyline trail from the south slope. This road is not well maintained, it has many loose rocky sections and deep ruts. It is considered a Cat HC climb - the most difficult (Radford Road to the east is a slightly easier ascent, but still very difficult at Cat 2)."

    Radford sucks....and they say it's easier? :cautious:

    And that's after climbing back up from Morton Peak...... :oops:

    King Size ride.
     
  5. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Thanks for the heads up, J. I would not choose terrible uphill surfaces intentionally. I’ll get to recon some stuff and adjust the route but try to keep it stout.

    I don’t expect a lot of interest but enough of you like these punisher rides to throw it up here. Endurance riding seems like a safer challenge than some other flavors, and I’m trying to work with the covid situation. I’d like it to be hard enough for no assured outcome but not some crazy remote mission.
     
  6. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    Trek FEX
    Sounds to me like you’re in?
     
  7. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    Not likely....weekdays dont work for me
     
  8. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ripley V4, DV9 & Knolly Cache
    I’ve ridden up Clarks Grade several times..........It wasn’t bad.......... on my KTM....:sneaky:
     
  9. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    Compare it to Nate Harrison Grade....
     
  10. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ripley V4, DV9 & Knolly Cache
    It’s been several years since I’ve been on Clarks. If I remember correctly, the average grade is about the same between the two, but Nate Harrison is longer with a little bit more elevation. The biggest difference is trail conditions. Nate Harrison is a graded fire road a lot like Blackstar. I could drive my 4Runner to the top. Clarks has a lot of loose, rocky and steep sections. There used to also be a few trees that required you to drag the dirt bike under. Those may have been cleared by now. From knowing what you like to ride, I think you’d enjoy Nate Harrison. Nice steady grind up with killer views. I’d be up for riding it again in the fall when it cools down if you ever want to head down this way. It’s a fun blast down Palomar Mountain as well once you get to the top.
     
  11. Runs with Scissors

    Runs with Scissors iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    West Anaheim
    Name:
    Mark Whitaker
    Current Bike:
    2015 Giant XTC Advanced 1 29er
    I've wanted to do Nate Harrison Grade for some time now....looking for cooler weather and an open day. :)
     
  12. evdog

    evdog iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    San diego
    Name:
    Evan S
    @mike you should add the out and back down Loch Leven like the chicken nuggets are doing, it's about the only thing missing from this route. :)

    I've ridden everything on this course, and in the direction this route is taking. The climb back up from Morton would suck as it will be in full sun in the afternoon, and hot. Clark's is a tough climb too when fresh nevermind this far into a ride. Steep, rough/loose road surface and again, little shade. I could barely stomach one of those two climbs in a single ride not both, and forget heading down to Morton knowing I'd have to climb all the way back to BB.

    If you want some suggestions Mike:

    1) Pineknot would be a fun way to end but the section of Skyline before it would be really tough at mile 60+. The profile looks flat but there are a ton of punchy climbs. Personally I'd start the ride by climbing Pineknot or Cabin 89 and when I get to top of Clark's near the end follow Skyline around clockwise. More singletrack, and in the better direction.
    2) Climb up Middle Control road to Angelus Oaks from SART, and on the way back descend the singletrack behind the post office. That's a tough bit of trail to climb, much better to descend it.
    3) I was only half joking about Loch Leven. After bagging Morton I'd drop down to Hwy 38, pedal up 38 for 1.5mi and then climb Loch Leven back to Angelus Oaks. Its an old road gone back to singletrack and will have a nicer grade and more shade. And will route you past the AO store again. There may be a stream crossing at the bottom for water.
    4) At top of Clark's, mile 60.5 or so there is a singletrack called Bellyache Spring that splits off. Take that rather than Clark's. Might be harder but has some shade and is worth it. Not sure where the spring is.
    5) bring your head net, you'll need it!

    Water will be available
    -where you connect to SART around mile 15
    -down on lower SART towards the end there is a reliable and accessible crossing with wooden bridge - mile 23?
    -Angelus Oaks store/restaurant
    -Santa Ana River at start of Clark's grade

    The whole section from AO to Morton and back is dry


    If you will be available weekends in Sept, Schillingsworth and I will be doing a big ride sometime that month starting in BB, climb up to Sugarloaf peak the back way, and then down Wildhorse full SART to Redlands. I didn't realize you might be around then. You are one of the few people who might appreciate this route.
     
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  13. pperrelle

    pperrelle Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Carlsbad
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ripley V4, DV9 & Knolly Cache
    Definitely hit me up when you do. Would definitely wait for the cooler weather. I don’t recall it being hot when we did it but the bugs at the top made us all look like a Tourette’s cycling team.

    @mike , sorry for the derail. :)
     
  14. Grego

    Grego iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Fullerton
    Name:
    joe
    Current Bike:
    WFO9
    Your pace exactly. 10,000' climbs are best done solo. Enjoy the adventure. I couldn't make it anyway, working.
     
  15. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon 60%
    Agree w/ @evdog re. the Loch Leven climb... that's a gem!
    The ride up 38 to it kinda' sucks, but really worth it.
    Mountain Home Creek is year-round, so there will be water there as well.
     
  16. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    ...in da Sauce, baby!

    Heee! @evdog referred to us as the Chicken Nuggets! We made the A-Team!
     
  17. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail
  18. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Thanks for the beta and suggestions, @evdog, @Cyclotourist, @Grego.

    Chicken Nuggets sounds good to me. All aboard... Conductor Herz is closing the doors...



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  19. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I wanna make you piss your pants by mile 30!
     
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  20. Nag

    Nag Member

    Location:
    Studio City
    Name:
    Noah
    Current Bike:
    Niner Rip
    looks beastly
     
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  21. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail
    What is wrong with you?
     
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  22. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    The internet.
     
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  23. Walleye

    Walleye Member

    Location:
    Vista
    Name:
    Bill P.
    Current Bike:
    Trek Fuel EX7
    Yup, a bug net is MANDATORY on the Gnat Harrison! If you want to make the ride epic, consider adding the Gomez Trail down, as per MtnBikeBill (http://mountainbikebill.com/PalomarEpicLoop.htm). I did this a couple of years ago, and it was a blast, if legally sketchy.
     



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