Discussion in 'Bikepacking' started by mike, Jun 11, 2017.
With that logic we should all be on road tires.....
Are they available in Minion DHF tread pattern yet?
I know you're kidding but these are pretty close..
Wow, my bluff has been called!
I am liking the 2.6 Rekons. Not too heavy and a pretty good roller.
I like the idea of fast and light touring but know nothing of the AZT's logistics aka distance between water sources, food resupply opps, etc. But since @Runs with Scissors assures me there's no battery in his downtube, I'd consider an XTC for the AZT, and put that space to use for water storage. Just sayin'.
I almost went for those, but for the carbon bead. I only want folding tires.
I think @mike is getting a good discount on the GG Hardtail above.
Let's face it, any bike that won't break, fits well and rides comfortably can be a bikepacker on almost any route. I've seen skinny road tires to 4-5" tires on the same route. On long routes there is going to be a lot everything, so no real way to avoid a compromise at some point. Pick your shortcomings...
Hah, J...all I had to do was take a merciless beating on my Czar, voila! But sure, GG wants BAMFs on GGs.
No question. I'm only saying what I'd do or options I'd consider (or in this case imagine). Ironically, my road tours were generally ultra-light and involved "guerrilla" tactics, as in sleeping behind trees or in deep grass along Highway 1, or in barns or fields in Europa. I haven't done any bikepacking, but would opt for minimal gear and overall efficiency.
I would think a shuttle-type ride where we leave one vehicle at the start and ride one or two days to the shuttle vehicle, that was staged earlier, might be workable.
Getting pretty jacked up checking out the great nav materials the AZT Foundation has put together – bike-specific app, hi-res digital maps suitable for letter-size printing, bike data book. Really a class act. Definitely happy to be a member and support their exemplary work
I see the 800-mile ride as a bunch of rides linked at re-supply points. "Ride" lengths in miles (not counting off-route mileage, which there will be a lot of) look roughly like this...
I can't imagine there won't be resupply opportunities that I have not considered or don't show up on the app.
To me a hundreds-mile ride is like climbing El Cap...too much distance to comprehend it at once. It gets broken down and then you can comprehend it. At that point it gets a little daunting. Which is the point, no?
Cool. So now, you got to figure out which days would put a small crew on your track for a 2 night, 3 day, run between supply/shuttle stops.
These are printed from PDF files from AZT Foundation. Very nice...127 topo maps, fifty bucks worth of repro, ready to be discarded en route.
In April is all I can say now...
I'll bet @evdog and @schillingsworth have input on don't miss sections. Passage 17/Alamo Canyon "Picketpost" gets raves. My sick friend Colin actually has me psyched for the Canyon portage. He wants to do just that.
I hear the section from Oracle to Picketpost is pretty good. There might even be a recent TR here somewhere
@mike Do you have specific dates yet? You're riding south to north, right? I'll be lining up for the 300 & shooting for a 3d 12h finish, then riding home, but a lot needs to go right for that to happen. If I'm around, I'll try and ride a bit with you. Are you carrying a SPOT tracker or the like?
As far as bikes go on the AZT, ride what you like. I ride a hardtail and there's very few times I wish I had a FS rig. I'm currently rolling a 27.5+ Ti hardtail for a couple of months (extended demo), but there's no way I'll be taking it on the 300. While the plus sized tires are nice on loose rubbly terrain, there's a 7lb penalty compared to my 29er Ti hardtail. That extra weight is compounded during an event like the 750 be it race mode or tour mode. The Canyon portage alone wouldn't be worth it. I'll be on the 29er for the 300 and the next time I do the 750, my shoulders will thank me.
John, as close to 4/1 as can be, S-N. Tried to miss the 750 traffic, but is what it is. Love to share some dirt if it works. No Spot, I'll hit ya my # on PM
Still waiting on my frame. Just mounted the Rekons...alarmingly light heading into the desert, but I have faith in Maxxis (and extra sealant tubes, sealant, repair goods...).
Haven't heard much about the Rekon's, report back. Glad to see you're not going with the Ikon's, I know a bunch of people love 'em, but I've had too many issues to trust them. I've been running the Ardent 2.4's front & rear for a couple of years now and have been very pleased with their durability. Of course, 3C/EXO casing.
Great info, thanks, John. I agree, the Ikon seemed a bit light for loaded desert riding. But hey, I can slice a sidewall on anything...
It's on, my friends. Saturday shuttle from Tucson to Montezuma Pass, two miles from Mexico and the official start kiosk of the AZ Trail.
I'll be logging reports here: https://ousleycreative.wordpress.com
Good luck......stay safe.
Oh yeah........and you suck.
Good luck Mike, take lots of pics. Don't be shy out there. (Most) 750 riders won't bite...
Good Luck, May the Force be with you!
Looking forward to hearing from you (hopefully) along the way!
Have fun and enjoy @mike ! I'm ready to see your adventure unfold... I'd especially like to see some pics of the your setup for the GC portage. Wheels can't touch the ground up or down, right?
Thanks, D. Ride, sleep, repeat...I can remember that.
I like the portage setup with the wheels on the pack and the rest of the bike on a sling over the shoulder. Can't imagine my minimalist backpack with a bike-size load. But I guess we'll see...
Yes, no wheels on the ground they say. But I saw a vid of a guy with wheels on his backpack, and when he sat down one touched...infraction!!!!!!!!! It'll be like most every hike...scoping the line while going too slow
Just a reminder and a bump.......
@mike is updating currently updating his blog on his adventure: