Aliso-Wood and Laguna Coast Wilderness Parks

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  1. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    Fair enough. I concede to the expert. The only trail in Aliso I have crashed on is Lynx ... five fukin' times. That bitch has my number. I am obviously not riding fast enough.
     
  2. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I wasn't arguing... just adding my perspective.

    My worst crash to date was on Lynx. I don't remember it, but my face does. "Funny" thing is, it was at the little step-up at the beginning of the trail. :facepalm:
     
  3. HBkites

    HBkites Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Huntington Beach
    Name:
    Sharone
    Current Bike:
    Why S7, Revel Rascal, Spark RC
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  4. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    Different strokes!

    I've only been down 5 Oaks once, and it was on the sketchy Highball, but I would rank it harder than Mentally Sensitive... That is my favorite out there of all of them. I'll never understand going down Meadows with its cheater lines and braking bumps instead of Mentally Sensitive. Meadows is a decent climb, though...
     
  5. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Don’t take the cheater lines. We built over 20 great berms. And what braking bumps?
     
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  6. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    I can never even figure out what the real line is on Meadows.
     
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  7. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    The line with the berms! It flows much better that way.

    Might negatively impact one’s STRAVA times though...
     
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  8. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    Cool, I will keep that in mind. I am too old to care about Strava times. Meadows always confuses me though.
     
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  9. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    BB sensitivity is inversely proportional to suspension travel. :p
     
  10. Stkx66

    Stkx66 iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Southern California
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower 27+/ 29r
    I sprained my wrist on Car Wreck when I first got into mountain biking four years ago. I've only ridden it maybe twice ever. The Luge? Only a couple of times as well. For myself I've stayed away because of the crowds. On one trail there were 20 hikers balanced on the trail edge as we went by. I remember brushing past one hiker. I turned my body to apologize and in doing so swacked another hiker with my back pack. Apologized again and decided weekends are to busy for that place.
     
  11. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Fortunately, I have never experienced anything like that on the trails themselves. But I've seen plenty of large groups (hikers and bikes) queued up, ready to go. I've seen the Luge Flag hill look like an ant colony. (And not to confuse those from out of area - The Luge is not in Aliso. It's in another congested part of OC 20 miles away).

    My worst crowd experience that interrupted my riding the longest was a conga line of 20 riders climbing Meadows on a weekend morning. Think about how long it takes to yield the right of way for 20 riders cranking at 2-4 mph. It was about a 15-20 minute wait. Please don't ride in large groups on weekend mornings in congested urban multi-use parks with multi-directional trails. Thank you!
     
  12. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    We really need one way trails Nobody should be climbing Rock-It or Meadows IMO. Bommer recently made some trails one way only. So much better for everyone.
     
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  13. pperrelle

    pperrelle iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Oracle, AZ
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ripley V4 & Ripmo V2
    Crowds, there are no crowds in Aliso....... This was at the top of Stairsteps. Luckily I got to the top before they all started hiking down. @Dirtrider.... wasn’t as lucky.

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  14. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Ummmm, was that ^^^^^ recently @pperrelle? They don't appear to be too concerned with social distancing, masks or other such current self-regulation.
     
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  15. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    Mmmmmmeadows on a late afternoon.....

    I like chunk ... But I also like flow.

    Like most trails you get out what you put in... Stairs, Rock it Lynx Meadow's, MS

    Meadow's .... Put in the work to know the turns and berms and get out... leaning the bike over, checking that tread, and coming out of the turn faster than you went in .... :)

    And like any trail... at speed you may have to pay to play
     
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  16. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    I cannot even give a site like for that BS.
     
  17. pperrelle

    pperrelle iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Oracle, AZ
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ripley V4 & Ripmo V2
    Nope, it was last spring.
     
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  18. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Rock-It - It's a good climb, but I can see your point. Mathis and Cholla are close enough climbing alternatives. Meadow - well, it's the only way up on that end of the park, so I can't ever see it being designated as a DH only trail. Most hikers use the shortcuts while climbing, which is good and bad. Good because they are out of the way, bad because it creates the stupid straight line that lots of bikes take down. And bad because of the environmental impact of the Dollar Sign-ing
     
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  19. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    Hey @rossage - wanna take a road trip? :Roflmao
     
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  20. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    So it's not OK to take girl scout troops, boy scout troops or class field trips for hikes? I would be angry if that were a group of EndurBros, but I think it's cool that organized hikes are a part of a youth's upbringing. Annoying if I am out riding, but I was that kid - well, not a girl scout, but church group hikes. Rocky Mt. National Park. Also very crowded on weekends.
     
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  21. rossage

    rossage iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    Ha! No.
     
  22. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    Wait a minute, Mr... I once said that I saw 30 guys lined up waiting their turn at the top of the Luge and you told me I was crazy. But you can see an ant colony of people?!? :p :Roflmao
     
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  23. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I don't recall that. I've seen 20 for sure.
     
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  24. Dirtrider....

    Dirtrider.... Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Mission Viejo, CA
    Name:
    Paul
    Current Bike:
    Ibis Ripley V4
    i remember that day... that group was clueless on trail etiquette. mob rules always win.
     
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  25. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    When I went Saturday afternoon had the trails I wanted nearly to myself... So I'll take a pic of that next time...

    Afternoons at Aliso and LCWP can be awesome low traffic nice trails and a beautiful ocean breeze...

    I've ridden a few sunset rides with that sunset and breeze... Mix in a few goats, coyotes and deer... Lovely.

    They are my home parks so I am a bit biased but

    All I need Some tasty trails, an cool ocean breeze

     
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  26. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    Speaking of goats.....i took the singletrack from the top of Meadows over Mentally Sensitive...there was no warning that the trail was blocked off by the electric fence for the goats. I had to blaze my own trail to get back over to the paved path.
     
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  27. Obsidian

    Obsidian iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Costa Mesa
    Name:
    Obsidian
    Current Bike:
    27.5 Intense Tracer
    No. But feel free to be the trail ambassador once you can ride again. I am just messing around. Get well soon.

    Was that passive aggressive? ;) Them's just jokes.
     
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  28. Oaken

    Oaken Well-Known Member

    Location:
    OC
    Name:
    CeeJay
    Looks like a St. Paddy’s day hike
     
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  29. bvader

    bvader iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    HB
    Name:
    Mr. Brown
    Yeah I have yet to figure out how those goats move that electric fence :)
     
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  30. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    All good! But I am horribly offended. :(


    And we are all trail ambassadors, every time we ride! ;) :thumbsup:
     
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