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  1. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    27.5? o_O
     
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  2. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
  3. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
  4. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I've seen one at The Path... In fact, I've seen two.
     
  5. BonsaiNut

    BonsaiNut iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Troutman, NC
    Name:
    Greg P
    Current Bike:
    Santa Cruz Hightower CC XX1
    It's interesting how all these bikes are coming with 1x11 or 1x12 drive trains. I don't think I'll ever need a front derailleur again. I'll never be a single-speed guy, but 12 gears seem like more than enough (for me).
     
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  6. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    Agreed. 1×11 with 30t and 10-42 cassette is near perfect for me though yesterday I would have loved to have Jennifer's 32t and 10-50 cassette on a couple of the climbs.
     
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  7. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    The elimination of the front derailleur has freed up frame designers to come up with more acceptable geometry for 29 inch wheels and longer travel. :thumbsup:
     
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  8. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower
    We will see pinion gearboxes/internal transmissions before we ever see front derailleurs again.

    FD's have gone the way of the Dodo and dinosaurs.
     
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  9. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Dinosaurs have not left us completely.

    Just look up in the sky. That's them flying by, in their modern design.
     
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  10. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
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  11. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Don't fence me in!
    Or on the ground! Chickens are the closest relation to dinosaurs around now.
     
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  12. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    And two other reviews I read had the same conclusions. Pretty to look at, but not very functional.
     
  13. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Thank you for adding that David! :thumbsup:
     
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  14. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Opposite of what Scissors wants. The Foxy's strength is descending.
     
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  15. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
  16. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I think I'll just get this Megatower:
    Megatower Park Edition.png

    Even has room for a water bottle inside the frame! :thumbsup:
     
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  17. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    Nah, he wouldn’t notice one way or the other. Measurements don’t apply. It has 2 wheels, pedals, a saddle, and a handlebar of irrelevant width. It’s a bike.
     
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  18. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
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  19. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    It's a frame for $1800 bones. That's not a good deal...

    Now, the one for sale from GG looks dreamy... Too small for Herz, though.
     
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  20. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    Super practical.
     
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  21. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Yep
    :facepalm:
    :laugh:
     
  22. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Yep, frame only with a fancy coil shock. List price on the PB classifieds rarely is the selling price... :geek:

    Point I failed to make is a cheap used something would be less sting if it’s not bliss. Moot point if the rider just wants a new bike.
     
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  23. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    Thanks guys, but I'm gonna steer away from a bike that weighs 36 lbs. I'm not as strong as you beasts.
     
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  24. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    The 00s are over. It’s okay to have a bike that weights 30+. Especially fir you gargantuan sized people. You’ll notice the weight when you put it on the rack or stand. Otherwise you wont. Especially with that geo, look at that sad STA on the Mega, no thanks.
     
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  25. scan

    scan iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    Help me understand how that frees up designers??
     
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  26. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I'm not an engineer, so I am merely repeating what I've read and what sounds likely. It stands to reason that trying to create a stable place to mount a front derailleur that stays aligned and accurate creates some design constraints in terms of tubing shape, chainline, pivot locations, chainstay length and more. Once they stopped worrying about front derailleurs, chainstays got shorter (on 29 ers), pivot locations moved to more advantageous locations, there was room for wider tires, etc. Am I wrong?

    Where would you put a front derailleur on this? Did this not free up designers to run a straight, uninterrupted seat tube and put the suspension linkage in a better location, adding torsional stiffness to a critical part of the bike?

    Hightower Linkage.png
     
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  27. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    I'm no engineer but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night and your explanation sounds spot on.
     
  28. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    The Mega in the picture has a 200mm dual crown fork attached to it. I posted that as a semi-joke. The effective seat tube angles on the Mega and the Hightower are both about 76.3° (XXL) - plenty steep and roughly the same as the Smash (75.9).

    As an XL guy who likes stout, sturdy bikes with 5.5-6.5" of travel, I have gotten used to my bikes weighing 30 lbs, +/- 1 lb. I noticed the weight difference between the Hightower and Megatower when I test rode them.

    Seems you won't relent unless I agree that an aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the right bike for me. OK - the aluminum Smash with a coil shock is the best bike for me, but I am not going to buy one, because I am obviously stupid, uninformed, unenlighted and unskilled. :thumbsup:

    PS: @littlewave - wanna chime in here?
     
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  29. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Haha!! You never know for sure until ya try. :)Was I that insistent? I don’t like to pressure anyone...you got this. :D
     
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  30. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    winner-winner-chicken-dinner-golf-tournament-8.jpg
     
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