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  1. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    I cannot believe that's a real product. I truly hope it is not. And what's with the optional shoulder belt? Surely this is a joke. Is it April 1?
     
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  2. Faust29

    Faust29 Moderator

    Location:
    irgendwo
    Name:
    B. Bunny
    Current Bike:
    I gots some bikes.
    Facebook humor...
     
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  3. Sasquatch9billion

    Sasquatch9billion iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    trinidad j. mendez
    Looks like you had some hard choices to make.:Roflmao
     
  4. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    2020 Revel Rail,Yeti SB 130 LR
    You mean which to drink first, right?
     
  5. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
  6. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    My buddy Tony used his many decades of metal working skills and brought Jennifer's tow hitch cover back to life. It was bent up and showed a lot of surface rust. Jennifer said it's better than new!

    received_3983328941792726.jpeg
     
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  7. Derkderkall

    Derkderkall iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    Monrovia
    Name:
    Derek Allison
    Current Bike:
    2020 Specialized Fuse 29
    You should really black out the plate better you post it
     
  8. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    Better?
     
  9. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Front Range, San Gabes
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
    Current Bike:
    YT Izzo
    Is that (Cool) hitch cover hanging down below the receiver?
     
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  10. UPSed

    UPSed iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Ed
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO
    Probably....
     
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  11. scan

    scan iMTB Rockstah

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    Scott Spark
    looks like a mtbike, not a gravel bike;)
     
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  12. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    Looks like the vintage photo of Herzie.
     
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  13. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    With Minions!
     
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  14. da big hills

    da big hills iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    pearl harbor
    Name:
    cagey
    Current Bike:
    enduro 29
    From trail reports Aug 2020. WTF happened in 11 months?

    Screenshot 2021-07-23 at 4.57.12 PM.png
     
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  15. Danimal

    Danimal iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Epic Evo
    So yeah, the manufacture of a smart phone is less intrusive to the environment than putting a piece of paper in a box. Good to know...
     
  16. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    HT, FS
    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbsup:
     
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  17. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I revisited this twice and speculated thrice and still cannot understand what you are saying.
     
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  18. Danimal

    Danimal iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Epic Evo
    PNW Components requires you to have a computer or smartphone to access the user manual online.
    Producing a computer or smartphone uses considerably more resources than printing a piece of paper and including it in the package.

    That is all.
    Easy peasy.....
     
  19. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

    Location:
    Orange
    Name:
    J
    Current Bike:
    SC Chameleon SS, SC Hightower

    The cool kids have Chris King’s…….

    FBA3F799-7041-410E-BF04-F64A0539284B.jpeg
     
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  20. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    I think people who buy a PNW component are more inclined to buy a bike suitable for the part than to buy a phone or computer to understand it. Even that notion seems backwards. Regardless, I assume these consumers have both items already in their toolkits to compliment the component. Next time I release an EIR for public review, and you are in the mailing radius, I’ll be sure to send you all 4,000 pages double sided rather than the one-page notice with a web link to Mission Viejo’s website where you can review it electronically.
     
  21. Danimal

    Danimal iMTB Addict

    Location:
    Mission Viejo
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    Epic Evo
    Maybe your photo was a comment on you buying a dropper. I took it as a comment on their lack of paperwork given your field of interest.
    Still not sure if one or the other, so I'll take it as dual meaning.

    But anyway,my point is that companies now assume and require a smart phone to access some of the features if not all. And I have issues with that.
    And I do recognize this is a syptom of my passive aggressive behavior and I'm ok with that.

    Yes I have a phone, but very often do not carry it as it is an electronic leash of sorts.

    So Thank you for printing and mailing the EIR to me. As I'd just print it anyway if it was of interest. As they are starting to build right behind me then it's very possible I'll receive one. :thumbsup:

    ( and I'll measure the thickness of the paper pile:) )
     
  22. jaime

    jaime Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Corona, ca
    Name:
    jaime
    Current Bike:
    '20 YT Jeffsy carbon 27'5
    Screenshot_20210724-131341_YouTube.jpg

    Trial bike....
     
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  23. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    CA
    Name:
    Chicken Nugget
    Current Bike:
    2018 Guerrilla Gravity SMASH
    My dad holds the same sentiment re: hard copies. If there were a paper manual, I’d lose it with the junk mail or magazines or utility bills around the house and resort to the PDF on their website when I need information. PNW’s approach also allows for amendments to the instructions as consumer feedback is received.

    I still receive hand-written comments to EIRs from select folks, all of which are old-school civil engineer types in Public Works departments. Maybe on my last day of employment, I’ll respond on a paper napkin and submit it for the public record.
     
  24. da big hills

    da big hills iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    pearl harbor
    Name:
    cagey
    Current Bike:
    enduro 29
    I design on "paper napkins". Really almost anything I can sketch on. My hand sketches have more info and better representation than any 3D model and I do it 99% faster. I can create 3D models but who has the time for that?. I sketch in pen, so you need to be confident on what you strike to the paper, there is no going back after the rollerball hits the bond. My first concepts are almost always perspective which allows the people you are helping "See" the solution right there right now.
    Happy pen and ink trails
     
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  25. OTHRider

    OTHRider Well-Known Member

    Name:
    Duke
    Current Bike:
    '18 Salsa Cutthroat
    .....said every manual machinist trying to decipher an "expert's" drawing.....and every framer, and mechanic, and plumber, etc :sneaky:
     
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  26. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Don't fence me in!
    What's the story here?
     
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  27. jaime

    jaime Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Corona, ca
    Name:
    jaime
    Current Bike:
    '20 YT Jeffsy carbon 27'5
    @Cyclotourist Hey David whats up brother !!
    No story here. It was posted from a guy I follow on youtube he is from Spain and the pic look cool like that. :thumbsup:.
     
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  28. jaime

    jaime Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Corona, ca
    Name:
    jaime
    Current Bike:
    '20 YT Jeffsy carbon 27'5
  29. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

    Location:
    Redlands
    Name:
    David
    Current Bike:
    Don't fence me in!
    Got it! Thought you were taking on a new hobby!
     
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  30. da big hills

    da big hills iMTB Rockstah

    Location:
    pearl harbor
    Name:
    cagey
    Current Bike:
    enduro 29
    we machine to orthogonal drawings, I do those in pen and ink too. Plumbers I give in 3D as they can work better to 3D when we are stuffing a 10 lb pile into a 1 lb bag. They especially like it when I am designing Superpressure systems as they do not bend.
     
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