Damn...Now Idyllwild is burning..

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  1. jwag

    jwag Member

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  2. mike

    mike iMTB Hooligan

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  3. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

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  4. Diytypeofguy

    Diytypeofguy Member

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    This looks really bad. Prayers going out to those in the path of danger.

    -Henry
     
  5. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

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    Geez this Fire Thing is frustrating!
    Thanks for posting up Jeff!
    And welcome to the site if I have not welcomed you yet my friend!
     
  6. mtnbikej

    mtnbikej J-Zilla

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    Me no likey......it was finally recovering from the last fire. :thumbsdown:
     
  7. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Crap - just when it was beginning to rebound from the last one. I think I heard they had someone in custody for starting it.
     
  8. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    One person detained for possible arson.

    Weatherman says it could have also been started by lightning strikes.
     
  9. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

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    slightly different area, west of the 2013 Mountain fire. Near Hellrazor trail. Could spread to the old fire area though.
    I hate fires.
     
  10. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    Dang, the guy who was arrested was seen throwing flares out the window of his vehicle as he was driving along. Ummm, yeah, he might be just a little bit guilty. :eek:
     
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  11. Voodoo Tom

    Voodoo Tom MTB Addict

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    They need to select a jury of 12 "impartial" imtbtrails jurors to fry his f*ckin ass:devilish:...
     
  12. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

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    I vote @Voodoo Tom as one of the Juror’s! he seems impartial! :thumbsup:
     
  13. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    Just updated to 3000 acres.
     
  14. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

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    WTF!! death penalty. People are sickening.
     
  15. Poofighter

    Poofighter Member

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    TFPU. @simonmtb Hope you, your family, home and bikes are safe. I dont know if we have any other IMTB'r out there. If we do, hope you are safe as well.
     
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  16. hill^billy

    hill^billy iMTB Rockstah

    Any time it’s arson it should be labled as terrorism!
     
  17. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

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    I support this comment.

    Tripled in (large) size just like that, damn... at least it's not windy!
     
  18. evdog

    evdog iMTB Rockstah

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    That sucks. The only good news is there is good fire road access in the area of the HUB trails. They'll be throwing everything they can at it to stop it before it gets to the houses in town. Hopefully that happens before a bunch of the trail system burns.

    It is infuriating this was caused by utter stupidity. It seems like people get off with a slap on the wrist for starting fires like this. OK, give him a massive fine that amounts to a slap on the wrist because everyone knows he'll barely pay a cent of it - lots of these people have nothing to pay. How about some serious jail time? Or years worth of community service. Or both....
     
  19. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

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    Much agreed.
     
  20. sir crashalot

    sir crashalot iMTB Rockstah

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    well said
     
  21. mountaingirl sara

    mountaingirl sara iMTB Hooligan

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    :thumbsup:Agreed
     
  22. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    I have heard talk of this. It has been said that arson is a form of American Terrorism.
     
  23. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

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    How about life in a mental asylum? I can not fathom the vast amount of wildlife killed, which I’m willing to consider murder. The sickness of an individual to harm animals we are suppose to be good stewards over, the risk of lives and sometimes death of firefighters or innocent residents, the loss of homes, both from fire and mud slides to come.
    If one person dies from this I have absolutely no issue with the death penalty.
     
  24. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    I was thinking a fate worse than our civilized "death penalty" for the guy if he is found to be guilty.
     
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  25. herzalot

    herzalot iMTB Hooligan

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    Fight fire with fire?

    Uncivilized...and I wouldn't want us as a society to stoop to that level of incivility and cruelty, but it does stand to reason.
     
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  26. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer iMTB Hooligan

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    Mike, aka "Ssnake"
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    Completely uncivilized, no doubt. Grotesque and downright cruel in fact. :laugh:
     
  27. hill^billy

    hill^billy iMTB Rockstah

    Iwould really like his idenity to be released to the public!
     
  28. Cyclotourist

    Cyclotourist iMTB Hooligan

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    Red moon this evening, I presume from the fire.
     
  29. Mikie

    Mikie Admin/iMTB Hooligan

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    Interesting.
    Let’s talk a bit. Penalties for crimes against society...
    Why do we have them? I gathered it was to forwarn potential offenders of the future, to dare not act out such a violation. What if the penalty is considered acceptable to a perpetrator? Worth the risk? Then what?
    I look at our jail system now and figure that the penalty for the crime committed apparently is not steep enough to prevent the crime. Some criminals look at it as time off, 3 hot and a cot, time served and then go back to what they did before. What rehabilitation is that?
    I don’t know if it’s true but I heard rumor there are countries that cut a hand off of thieves, is that true? If true, what’s the theft crime rate in that country?
    Make the penalty severe enough and crimes may reduce. Does anyone want or accept crime? I say make the crime for arson that will stop arson, what ever it takes.
    Just me thinking out loud! :thumbsup:
     
  30. evdog

    evdog iMTB Rockstah

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    Evan S
    A while back I read that the Mountain fire in Idyllwild a few years ago was caused by an electrical fault at a ranch owned by a Saudi who had some sort of connection to the royal family there. They all but blamed it on negligence yet this person apparently faced no consequences. Trying to find any details on the investigation is almost impossible. Similarly the Chariot fire that almost burned down Mt laguna that same year was caused by a BLM employee who drove through an area of brush which ignited after some of it got caught on the underside of the jeep. There were a number of conflicting stories that came out about what actually happened and the employee in question seemed to disappear. Again it's hard to find any official results of the investigation and I've never heard a confirmed account of what happened to the employee. Fired? Re-assigned? Went into hiding? Its like the agencies want to bury it so it never sees the light of day.
     
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