Discussion in 'Shop Talk' started by SnakeCharmer, Jul 27, 2017.
No....you are both wrong. You don't need brakes on MTT.
I use them, but sparingly.
Oh yeah I did some stuff to my bike today...
Chop Chop.......get to it.
Santa Cruz box, wheel box, Eagle drivetrain box, Fox Transfer, Rock Shox fork...
Hmmm, someone's new Hightower must have arrived! Have fun building 'er, and even more fun riding it!
This place needs a nickname....
How about the “Santa Cruz Bike Owners Club”?
And, congrats VT!
I was thinking/worried that when SC bikes was sold, it would change into something disastrous. I guess not, huh?
So is Anaheim along the River.
Yep, and it's a shithole too!!
Naaah - I'm still thinkin' DW > VPP (even though I own a VPP bike)
SC are more common than Specialized now...
(ooohhhh, that one stings a little...)
Rode it. Got it dirty-er. It's making noises it probably shouldn't.
I done did...
Man your good, nothing gets by you.
Couldn't let this one go without telling the whole story so here it is... http://www.imtbtrails.com/forum/threads/vt-and-the-general-lee.6934/
I said it on the other thread, but Beeeeeyouteeful bike!!!! Congrats!!!!
As I sit at home with this crud going around (4th day now), I thought I would get out of bed and upgrade my rear rotor from 160mm to 180mm. Bought the bigger SRAM rotor, 40mm oversize brake adapter, and some new pads. Currently using the existing pads as they were practically brand new, but will replace if it doesn't feel right. Did I need to upgrade to a bigger size, probably not, but my bike needs to at least be as good as my wife's and my son's tracers right? All done and a very easy 5 minute change.
That may sting, but is very true. They lost their boutique status a few years ago. I bought a Superlight in 2000 when they were still a rare sighting.
Ok, so here's the full story.
When Fox opened up my Marzocchi, not only did it need the $450 worth of parts and service they predicted, but it needed additional parts, and had some Marzocchi parts that they did not have. Soooooo, they offered me a new 2018 Fox 36 for cheaper than the repairs. After doing some research and reading every test published about the 2018 Fox Factory 36, I decided that would be the better move. RIP Marzocchi. I am sad.
Today's first run on the 36 was meh. It was fantastic on small chop, but at speed in bigger holes, it did not do what my Marz did. Luckily, there are still many adjustments to be made. One thing that it did do noticeably was track the ground really well. It's instantly better than the DVO, but not where my Marz was. The suspension ramped up too much, so I removed one spacer today (I added it last night assuming I would need it). I will try it tomorrow with one spacer and 10% less air than recommended.
I really appreciate Fox customer service on this. They were courteous, generous, responsive and timely. They also cut my steer tube to match my Marz, pressed on the bearing race for my headset and installed the Star-Fangled nut. That saved me a $50 install (at least) at a local bike shop, plus time. They have come a loooooong way since 2011.
Hmmmmm.......maybe I'll think about sending my Marzocchi 66 in for service and see if they will swap it for a new 36.
They might, for 60% of MSRP.
The guy at Fenix Bikes tells me Marzocchi will have an Enduroish fork in 2018. Hope this is true. Also a fan of Marzocchi. We'll see.
Trolling eBay for unmaintained marzochis now.....
A new 36! That’s rad. But are you telling me you can ride a fox product that has not been “Pro tune” by BC? I thought that was mandatory.
I've only had one BikeCo designed suspension product, a "Marzocchi Roco" that Joe built for my Knolly Endorphin back in 2013. It didn't work for that bike. (Joe hated the Knolly suspension design, BTW). I sent my Fox CTD that came with the bike to Avalanche Racing and they made it perfect for the Knolly and my riding style.
I know you were sort of joking about scouring for old Marzocchis on E-Bay. I didn't get the 36 for free. I got it for basically 45% off retail because my refresh of the Marzocchi would have cost about that and they didn't have the lowers needed. I'm pretty sure Fox would not necessarily offer the same deal for anyone with a Marzocchi - maybe an original owner of a 2014-16 product.
I was still seeing a lot of 350s and 380s on New Zealand racers' bikes last season. I hope the big M will still exist with products that are different from Fox and are still superb. I would not count on it. I cannot see where Fox would have the incentive to keep doing R and D and product development for Marzocchi when their flagship products are doing so well and enjoying such a great reputation at the moment.
Yeah I would never try really buy broken stuff to return. Congrats you got it taken care of
I built up another rear wheel the other day.
DT 240, EX 471 rim, Sapim straight pull spokes, brass nips
Had a pesky high spot but built up true, round and tensioned.
Ready for duty as my extra wheelset.
Then the shop owner called. Said they found a small packet of nipple washers in the bottom of my rim box.
I learned long before that if a rim manufacturer gives you those washers, you better use them
So, that perfect wheel just got reperfected with the washers in their proper place.
Good thing it was only 28 spokes.
Cleaned the Kona today and will take apart the Devinci next week when the new bearings and seal kits come in for its annual maintenance.
You replace bearings and seals on your DeVinci annually? Are you referring to the fork and shock, or the actual suspension pivots on the frame?
Yes, all bearing and seals annually. I replace all frame bearings on the suspension and rebuild the rear shock. Fork was bought in September, so that won't get touched till next year. I also check the headset, replaced the lower bearing last year.
Good Lord - is that out of an abundance of caution or is it need? My Yetis, Knollys and Intense have all lasted at least three years without needing bearings/bushings replaced on the frames. I am sure they could have gone longer, but I typically sell off my bike and get something else after three years. I replaced two bearings on my Intense recently and discovered they did not actually need replacing. Something else was making the creaking sound. The bearings were buttery smooth when I removed them.
Headset too? A Cane Creek 110 is guaranteed for 110 years. The 40? You guessed it. How did you surmise that your headset bearings needed replacement?
Maybe I just don't ride enough, or ride hard enough, or both.
I agree that it's wise to change seals and oil on your fork and perhaps shock annually.