Side wall hole in tubeless tire. HELP!

Discussion in 'Shop Talk' started by Tom the Bomb, Jan 22, 2018.

  1. Tom the Bomb

    Tom the Bomb MTB Addict

    Location:
    Alta Loma, Ca.
    Name:
    Thomas Cosgrove
    Current Bike:
    Niner rip 9
    Got home tonight F$%cking flat tire. Plug leaked what gives? I use the basic sticky rope and push tool . Did it twice even put super glue on the outside and inside , no frieken luck! Anyone got a sure fire trick for sidewall puncture other than a new tire. Tried patching from inside and last a little while but eventually leaks too!
     
  2. DangerDirtyD

    DangerDirtyD MTB Addict

    Location:
    La Verne, CA
    Name:
    Dennis (AKA Dio)
    Current Bike:
    2013 Trek Slash 9 (26er)
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    with shoe goo. Make sure you SLATHER the goo all up in that slit inside and out. Also try adding some platy pink glitter to your sealant.
     
  3. mike

    mike MTB Addict

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    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Remove the plugs and patch inside and out. Shoe Goo sounds good, other products work too. I like to use sidewall cuttings for patches. Use a clamp, vice, etc for the ultimate bond.

    I’ve had only one sidewall hole I could not make tubeless with that method, a one-inch slice. Bikepacking.net has a different method in the QA forum using Kevlar thread and a curved needle, which could maybe work for that one. I gave up, brand new Minion.
     
  4. herzalot

    herzalot MTB Addict

    Location:
    Laguna Beach
    Name:
    Chris
    Current Bike:
    '15 Intense Tracer 275c DVOish
    Start a GoFundMe site for a new tire, and/or stop riding like such a BEAST! :thumbsup: :cool:
     
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  5. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer MTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    I was under the impression that the plugs were really only meant to get you out of the wilds and back home.

    @mike has a good suggestion. :thumbsup:
     
  6. rossage

    rossage MTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    Sorry bro, new tire time. Unless you enjoy wrestling with it every ride...
     
  7. Faust29

    Faust29 MTB Addict

    Location:
    Rancho Santa Margarita
    Name:
    Steve
    Current Bike:
    Chameleon & Dead Highball
    When I was younger, we ran plugs in everything from cars to tractors to tractor trailers... It wasn't unusual for them to outlast the tire. I've had 3 plugs in one hole on my rear plus tire since Oregon last September, and a plug in my Ardent Race 29er for the last 700 miles... Clean the hole, and insert the plug with a little ShoeGoo for good measure.

    @Tom the Bomb - I love the plugs, since @mike turned me on to the bicycle variety last year. But sidewalls are tricky... I'd probably bin it. Or try one of the solutions above, but not expect long lasting results.
     
  8. UPSed

    UPSed MTB Addict

    Location:
    Simi Valley
    Name:
    Edward Bottorff
    Current Bike:
    Niner Jet 9 RDO Plus
    The hole is right at the bead of the tire. Too much flexing going on. I doubt it is savable.
     
  9. doublewide

    doublewide MTB Addict

    Name:
    Mark
    Current Bike:
    Ride Life Ride Giant
    This is all I got...

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  10. kioti

    kioti MTB Addict

    Name:
    Jim Jennings
    Drink a PBR and cut a boot from the empty can, clean the tire with MEK, attach the aluminum to the rubber with lots of spray glue; then throw in a tube. If that doesn't work, have another PBR and get Amazon to drone you a tire. It'll be there when you wake up.
     
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  11. Danmtchl

    Danmtchl MTB Addict

    Location:
    Bakersfield
    Name:
    Dan
    Current Bike:
    2015 Devinci Troy Carbon 27.5
    I have seen a few tires that leak from the sidewall and most are unsalvagable. Just toss it and go on with life. Buy a new one a feel safe with a new one.
     
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  12. scottay

    scottay MTB Addict

    Location:
    Gods Country
    Name:
    Scottay
    Like UPSed said, I believe that area to be too flexible and often rubbed by the rim. Try Stans inside a tube? Wont be tubeless, but may be goathead proof?
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  13. LLPoolJ

    LLPoolJ MTB Addict

    Location:
    Moreno Valley
    Name:
    James Johnson
    Current Bike:
    Cannondale Scalpel
    New tire time.
     
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  14. Sidewalk

    Sidewalk Well-Known Member

    Location:
    HorsetownUSA
    Name:
    Josh
    Current Bike:
    N+1
    I would cry, and see if any of my friends still have tubes.
     
  15. evdog

    evdog Well-Known Member

    Location:
    San diego
    Name:
    Evan S
    The sewing kit is mostly used for slashed sidewalls to keep the tire tubeless, not sure it would work for punctures which is what it sounds like TTB has. I know a few people who have been able to sew up a sidewall successfully to finish the ride. I carry the kit too, fortunately have never had to use it yet. Have used the plugs both successfully and unsuccessfully in bike tires, and successfully years ago when I got a nail through a truck tire.
     
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  16. Luis

    Luis MTB Addict

    Location:
    Sylmar
    Name:
    Luis
    Current Bike:
    Big Black 29er
    I agree since the tire is a Maxxis Ardent :thumbsdown:

    Patching inside and out worked for me on a Maxxis Minion DHR II that got a sidewall tear on it's second ride :mad:
    I just used the larger Rema Tiptop patches and fresh glue. The secret was the prep work, making sure the inside of the tire was super clean and Stans-free, same for the outer surface.
    People still see the outer patch and comment on it. It may be ugly but it worked. You can probably buy all black patches that are less visible.
     
  17. rossage

    rossage MTB Addict

    Location:
    East Sacramento
    Name:
    Ross Lawson
    Current Bike:
    Highball
    It's like driving an old V-8 with a bad cylinder. You know it's bad and will probably leave you stranded, but you keep putting oil in it for "one more trip"...
     
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  18. mike

    mike MTB Addict

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    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Close to the bead or the tread are worst case scenarios for sidewall repair IME.

    I guess you'll have to stick to paved bike paths, Tom :D
     
  19. Tom the Bomb

    Tom the Bomb MTB Addict

    Location:
    Alta Loma, Ca.
    Name:
    Thomas Cosgrove
    Current Bike:
    Niner rip 9
    Ok The Bomb shop tire repair update. Cleaned patched inside of puncture. Left plug in and trimmed inside. Coated the outside with liquid electrical tape! Bammmm! No more leak! It is supposed to be air and water tight. 2 coats. Will update in a couple weeks.

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  20. mike

    mike MTB Addict

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    Mike O
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    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Looks good now...time will tell :cautious::). Nice work, Tom!
     
  21. SnakeCharmer

    SnakeCharmer MTB Addict

    Location:
    Crescenta Valley
    Name:
    Mike, aka "Snake"
    Current Bike:
    Salsa/Trek/Kona
    @Tom the Bomb, your repair work looks clean. It also looks like she's a lil "turned on" and itching for some action. :sneaky:
     
  22. Tom the Bomb

    Tom the Bomb MTB Addict

    Location:
    Alta Loma, Ca.
    Name:
    Thomas Cosgrove
    Current Bike:
    Niner rip 9
    Big ride today no leakage. No sign of repair failure.:geek:
     
  23. scan

    scan MTB Addict

    Name:
    fran allas
    Current Bike:
    trek ex 7
    Reminds me of that product Flex Seal. Anybody ever try this????
     
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  24. mike

    mike MTB Addict

    Location:
    Western US
    Name:
    Mike O
    Current Bike:
    Guerrilla Gravity Smash
    Nice work, Tom. I'll be over for my next sidewall job. :D
     
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  25. Tom the Bomb

    Tom the Bomb MTB Addict

    Location:
    Alta Loma, Ca.
    Name:
    Thomas Cosgrove
    Current Bike:
    Niner rip 9
    Ya I was thinking the same thing. That stuff could be a tire saver! I think it would even work better.
     
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  26. Tom the Bomb

    Tom the Bomb MTB Addict

    Location:
    Alta Loma, Ca.
    Name:
    Thomas Cosgrove
    Current Bike:
    Niner rip 9
    3 months later repair job still good. Wore out the tire though . No leaking problems after repair.
     
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